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#88834 - 08/02/04 06:18 PM Camper power
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Homeowner wants a 30 amp 125 volt trailer plug out by the driveway to power up the camper while its sittin in the yard.We will have to trench out from the house and mount the outlet on a post next to the camper.Does the 30 amp 125 volt plug require GFCI protection.We plan to run pvc out from the house to a 2-gang bell box with a bubble cover to protect it from rain.

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#88835 - 08/02/04 07:53 PM Re: Camper power
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210.8(A) Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in (1) through (8) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.

... "outdoors" is (3)

It says 15 and 20a, not 30a.
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#88836 - 08/02/04 11:32 PM Re: Camper power
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Might want to dig a little deeper. I don't have my book handy but I believe all outlets in an RV park have to be GFI. That may carry over to a residence. I know I put a GFI on my personal 50 amp RV outlet without even thinking about it. Considering how bad RVs are wired in general, its cheap protection. See my pictures titled 'Vintage Motorhome' for a typical RV wiring job.

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#88837 - 08/03/04 12:23 AM Re: Camper power
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Why not use a Midwest or Milbank RV power outlet it will look better and be more durable I did not find anything requiring GFCI protection on a 30A receptacle.

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#88838 - 08/03/04 09:09 AM Re: Camper power
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NORCAL...I like your idea about the RV power outlet by Midwest or Milbank. My supply house can't find anything like what you are refering to. Do you have a part # so I can track it down???

thanx, shorcircuit

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#88839 - 08/03/04 09:56 AM Re: Camper power
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For what it is worth, Article 551 has no requirement for GFCI protected receptacles, including the 15 and 20 ampere sizes.

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#88840 - 08/03/04 12:49 PM Re: Camper power
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Like the Midwest or Milbank stuff, they seem to be the ‘original’ raintite-while-in-use receptacles. Also made by Square-D and Siemens {with integral circuit breaker}...


http://ecatalog.squared.com/pubs/Electri.../1140CT9201.pdf


www.sea.siemens.com/resident/docs/RPBR-S0007-1003.pdf




[This message has been edited by Bjarney (edited 08-03-2004).]

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#88841 - 08/03/04 02:54 PM Re: Camper power
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Midwest model # P13.

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#88842 - 08/03/04 06:00 PM Re: Camper power
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Thanx for your helpfull responces...I also found a website that has RV power equipment,
www.rvpoweroutlet.com

I ordered the powerpack with the 30 amp 125volt plug and disconnect for $59.95
They told me the 30 amp switch also provides overcurrent protection.

shortcircuit

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#88843 - 08/03/04 06:10 PM Re: Camper power
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$ 60.00 Yikes! I paid about $25 for the poweroutlet only, and for $10 or so more could have had one W/ a C/B.

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