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#88312 - 05/27/04 07:47 PM GFCI
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When installing outlets in the soffit of a home for Christmas lighting do these plugs need to be gfi protected? I have always put in a gfi breakers but was told that they didnt have to because they where over 7' off the ground. I feel better about them having protection, you can never be to carefull.
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#88313 - 05/27/04 08:10 PM Re: GFCI
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GFCI required.
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#88314 - 05/27/04 08:17 PM Re: GFCI
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Thanks Ryan. Could you tell me where I could find this in the code book.
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#88315 - 05/27/04 08:26 PM Re: GFCI
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210.8(A)
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#88316 - 05/27/04 10:10 PM Re: GFCI
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I was always under the impression that they didn't have to be GFCI because of the
210.8(A)(3) exception that allows for non GFCI on plugs that are not readily accessible.
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#88317 - 05/27/04 11:23 PM Re: GFCI
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The exception to 210.8(A)(3) only applies to receptacles used for snow-melting & deicing equipment.

I guess Christmas lights would help melt the snow and ice.
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#88318 - 05/28/04 06:03 AM Re: GFCI
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I hoping I wasn't wrong, since I didn't have my code book. I really should stop winging it like that
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#88319 - 05/28/04 12:11 PM Re: GFCI
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There was a local contractor that was installing receptacles in the soffit for Christmas lighting and was also trying to use the snow-melting and deicing equipment exception. That would be fine except we are in South West Florida. It did snow here once about 2,000 years ago!!!
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#88320 - 05/28/04 02:19 PM Re: GFCI
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I don't know what that exception would save you, since you would then have to have GFPE. Is GFPE cheaper? I thought it was more.

[This message has been edited by Ryan_J (edited 05-28-2004).]
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