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#86772 - 12/03/03 04:15 PM GEC can be Green or Green with a Yellow Stripe!
Joe Tedesco Offline
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Report on Comments - May 2004
196 Log #385 NEC-P05
(250. 119)
Submitter: Dan Leaf Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Comment on Proposal Number: 220
Recommendation:

Revise last sentence: Conductors with insulation or individual covering that is green , green with one or more yellow stripes , or otherwise identified as permitted by this section shall be used only as an equipment bonding conductor.

Exception: Grounding electrode conductors shall be permitted to be identified in accordance with this section.

Substantiation:

Since this section encompasses individual covered conductors, they should be covered by the proposal. Many installers employ green covering, marking, or striping for grounding electrode conductors , though not required or prohibited by present Code, which provides a degree of identification from circuit conductors, especially where installed with other conductors in the same raceway or enclosure. Though this section relates to equipment grounding (bonding) conductors the wording appears applicable as a general rule.

Final Action:

CMP 5 Accepted this "Comment in Principle" and added the following to the existing 250.119 in the NEC.

"Conductors with insulation or individual covering that is green, green with one or more yellow stripes, or otherwise identified as permitted by this section shall not be used for grounded or ungrounded circuit conductors"



[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 12-04-2003).]
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#86773 - 12/04/03 03:11 PM Re: GEC can be Green or Green with a Yellow Stripe!
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the sqeaky wheel method seems very effective in the nfpa...

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#86774 - 12/14/03 02:29 AM Re: GEC can be Green or Green with a Yellow Stripe!
pauluk Offline
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While specifying that green (or green/yellow) be used for grounding conductors, it seems only logical to me that these colors should also be prohibited from use for other functions.

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#86775 - 12/14/03 08:34 AM Re: GEC can be Green or Green with a Yellow Stripe!
Bill Addiss Offline
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 Quote:
"Conductors with insulation or individual covering that is green, green with one or more yellow stripes, or otherwise identified as permitted by this section shall not be used for grounded or ungrounded circuit conductors"
It only makes sense to close a loophole when one is found.


Bill

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