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#85515 - 07/12/03 04:46 AM Raintight EMT
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I've just found out that EMT compression fittings, which I've always considered to be "raintight," aren't listed for that use at this time.
Has anyone stopped using them for this purpose???...S

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#85516 - 07/12/03 06:56 AM Re: Raintight EMT
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Not me. What are we supposed to do, use GRC or make an ugly looking PVC installation?

I've torn out quite a few outdoor EMT installations & I don't recall seeing any evidence that the connectors & couplings leaked. Of course, one man's experience is limited & this could be a real problem elsewhere.
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#85517 - 07/12/03 08:16 AM Re: Raintight EMT
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I use them outdoors, as well, and have never had a problem or been red-tagged by an inspector for it.

On a vertical run (like a service riser), I will often smear a bit of RTV around the top compression nut as added insurance against leaks.

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#85518 - 07/12/03 08:55 AM Re: Raintight EMT
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Since this came about, I have wondered what caused UL to rescind it's original listing of these fittings. It seems like this could be a credibility awakening for some of their other listings.

I mean, why did this just happen out of the blue, did they decide they had low water pressure the day they originally tested these way back when?

Roger

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#85519 - 07/12/03 12:17 PM Re: Raintight EMT
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This may be old information, but http://tnbelectricalworld.tnb.com/contractor/docs/tbhazardous.pdf seems to call out raintight up to 2 inch, but a few other catalogs do not.

2½-4 inch compression-ring EMT fittings have generally not been raintight listed. A notable exception were fittings for 2½-4 inch EMT so marked, and furnished with a plainly visible rubber boot.

There are a number of ‘raintight’ hits in http://www.steelconduit.org/pdf/ConGuide4.3.pdf

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#85520 - 07/12/03 06:09 PM Re: Raintight EMT
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Bjarney, Currently UL does not list any EMT fittings as raintight..Looks like we're all in a heck of a lot of trouble.
This is ridiculous. Failures are generally caused in the terminations...S

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#85521 - 07/12/03 06:29 PM Re: Raintight EMT
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I agree with Tom. PVC can get pretty seedy looking outside on a building surface.

Don't "W-" and "W-2"-rated conductors buy you anything used outdoors?

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#85522 - 07/12/03 07:59 PM Re: Raintight EMT
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 Quote:
Currently UL does not list any EMT fittings as raintight


I thought EMT was not listed for outdoor use--only "rigid" conduit?

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#85523 - 07/13/03 06:32 AM Re: Raintight EMT
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Go here for UL's report.
http://www.ul.com/regulators/raintight.html

Roger

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#85524 - 07/14/03 06:59 AM Re: Raintight EMT
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Does any one know what part of the connector failed? The connector to box? or the connector to conduit?

Thomas and Betts technical support said that the use of a seperate sealing washer would be suffcient to meet the raintight requirements.

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