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#85082 - 05/28/03 05:34 AM Shoild This Be Removed??
Joe Tedesco Offline
Registered: 10/07/00
Posts: 2749
Loc: Boston, Massachusetts USA

Do you think that this type of wiring, left abandonded, should be removed if not in use or at least tagged or otherwise identified to indicate that it should not be energized?

I think I saw a rule in NFPA 1, does anyone have that publication so that we can compare the rule calling for removal?
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#85083 - 05/28/03 06:12 AM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
Ron Offline
Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 582
Loc: White Plains, NY
NFPA 1 Uniform Fire Code 2003 Edition
"11.1.4 Permanent wiring abandoned in place shall be tagged or otherwise identified at its termination and junction points as “Abandoned in Place” or removed from all accessible areas and insulated from contact with other live electrical wiring or devices."
#85084 - 05/29/03 01:57 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
sparky Offline
Registered: 10/18/00
Posts: 5303
That's actually better looking that 1/2 the stuff that is in use here.

Tagging (actually i would use permanent marker) would seem an easy request
#85085 - 05/29/03 03:02 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
Bjarney Offline
Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 2527
Loc: West-Southern Inner-Northeast ...
For some areas, one approach might be a sign: "Keep Out -- Security Alarm Power." That could almost guarantee off-hours 'demolition'.
#85086 - 05/29/03 04:14 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
Roger Offline
Registered: 05/18/02
Posts: 1716
Loc: N.C.
What defines "abandoned"? Is the meter pulled only until the next tenant apply's for power?

#85087 - 06/12/03 11:19 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
LoneStar Offline
Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 14
Loc: Victoria, TX 77901
hey , i could use that ol stuff at the farm!! LOL thats what my plumber buddy always says when he looks in back of my truck and sees ancient artifacts of electrical history

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#85088 - 06/16/03 06:05 AM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
GEO Offline
Registered: 03/12/03
Posts: 47
Loc: Lancaster,Pa
have asked this many times,sometimes it causes attitude from some for asking.I--would require it to be removed, based on the PMC ,install and maintained in safe approved manner and 100i is required. GEO
#85089 - 06/24/03 07:10 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??
John Steinke Offline
Registered: 04/03/01
Posts: 518
Loc: Reno,Nv., USA
I am sure that the utility will be happy to remove their feeders- if they haven't already.
The new code requires 100 amp service- so a service change is in the future for this location (the meter ring shown is only rated for 60 amps).

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