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#84466 - 04/02/03 05:18 PM GEC sizing
CTwireman Offline

Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 839
Loc: Connecticut, USA
(This is a carry over from the Mike Holt forum on the same topic.)

Here is a common situation. A residence has a 400 amp service. It is a rural setting, so there is no metallic water main and meter into the house. (It is plastic coming from the well pump). The only metalic piping is the interior water system.

In this situation, the GEC to the made electrode is not required to be larger than #6, correct? Or must it be #2 copper (assuming 3/0 copper parallel for the service), since there is no metallic water main?

It is my understanding that the only purpose of the ground rod is to direct lighting strikes to ground.


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#84467 - 04/02/03 07:58 PM Re: GEC sizing
Elzappr Offline

Registered: 12/20/01
Posts: 273
Loc: Oregon
Yup, just #6 to the ground rod..per 250.66(A).

I know that some would increase the size to #2 if there were two rods installed. The idea is that a rod can only disperse so much current in a given time. Two rods can disperse twice as much current as one, so the GEC ought to be doubled in ampacity as well (in spite of what the wording of 250.64(F) says). Thus #1.
Yet, the code only requires a maximum GEC size of #2 for parallel 3/0.

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#84468 - 04/03/03 03:25 AM Re: GEC sizing
zapped208 Offline

Registered: 02/18/03
Posts: 201
Loc: Somewhere in USA
CT,- We basicly have the same common here in the rural areas. Our POCO will not allow us to install our GEC in the meter socket, so for a 320 service, we install one GEC, usually a #4 from each panelboard or disconnect to one rod each tail under its own acorn clamp. Then to bond the plumbing, we use #4.
Shoot first, apologize later.....maybe

#84469 - 04/03/03 04:22 AM Re: GEC sizing
RickG Offline

Registered: 07/04/01
Posts: 37
Loc: South County, R.I. USA
A #4 to the piping on a 320 amp service? Shouldn't the H20 bond sized to the service entrance conductor size?

#84470 - 04/04/03 03:44 AM Re: GEC sizing
zapped208 Offline

Registered: 02/18/03
Posts: 201
Loc: Somewhere in USA
RickG,- Yes you are correct, but due to the fact that the outside water piping is plastic from the well head ,our main electrode is the rod. In town where copper water service is present then we bond accordingly.
Shoot first, apologize later.....maybe

#84471 - 04/04/03 08:16 AM Re: GEC sizing
resqcapt19 Offline

Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2209
Loc: IL
The bonding conductor for the interior metal water piping system is sized per Table 250.66 even when the water service to the building is nonmetallic. See 250.104(A).


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