ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#83893 - 02/23/03 06:58 PM Please Help
nancyf Offline
Junior Member
Registered: 02/23/03
Posts: 2
Loc: Wyandotte Mich. usa
I have searched all over the internet and can not find the answer to my question. I would appreciate it if one of you knowledgeable folks could help me. I had a swimming pool installed in November, and did all the necessary work, like moved lines, changed my electrical service and had some underground wires run into the house. I passed a final inspection on 11/11/02 and now out of the blue I get a notice of violation in the mail 3 months later. I have no clue what this is and would like to approach them with some knowledge. The violation says
Not approved. Michigan Residential Code 3306-4. I live in Michigan if that helps. I am sorry if these kind of questions are not appropriate, but I really need to know. I would like to thank anyone in advance that can help me.....
2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
#83894 - 02/23/03 07:27 PM Re: Please Help
dlabrenz Offline
Registered: 09/04/01
Posts: 25
Loc: Muskegon, MI
Don't know what final was done in november, whether it was building, electrical or plumbing. (yes these are different inspectors usually)

But as for the violation, the code section reads as follows:
E3306.4 Stranded conductors. Where installed in raceways,
conductors of size No. 8 and larger shall be stranded. A solid
No. 8 conductor shall be permitted to be installed in a raceway
only to meet the requirements of Section E4104.

(E4104 deals with pool bonding).

My advise is to contact the inspector and see exactly what needs to be fixed)

#83895 - 02/23/03 07:34 PM Re: Please Help
nancyf Offline
Junior Member
Registered: 02/23/03
Posts: 2
Loc: Wyandotte Mich. usa
Thanks Don. I don't understand a bit of it but, thanks for taking the time to respond. The final inspection I passed in November was for Underground electric, change of service and final electric. I have no idea why they came out 3 months later and said something was wrong. I am sure it is a political issue (long story) and thats why I wanted a little knowledge before talking to the inspector tomorrow. Thanks again!!
#83896 - 02/24/03 03:40 AM Re: Please Help
wolfdog Offline
Registered: 10/24/01
Posts: 135
Loc: Dallas,TX
It would seem to me that if you have a final inspection tag in hand, they will have a hard time putting the Genie back in the bottle.
#83897 - 02/24/03 06:50 AM Re: Please Help
mjelliott Offline
Junior Member
Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 9
Loc: Ventura, California, USA
Nancy, If I were you I would contact your eletrical contractor and ask him about this. You should get at least a one year waranty on his workmanship. Hopefully he can rectify this problem. Good Luck!
#83898 - 02/24/03 09:45 PM Re: Please Help
Steve T Offline
Registered: 02/14/01
Posts: 306
Loc: Oak Park, IL, USA
Sorry, I don't live in Michigan so am unfamilair with the code references but what was the final inspection for? The electric service to the house? The electrical final may not have been a final for the electrical or bonding for the pool.

As far as politics are concerned, I won't say it doesn't happen, but I am one town outside of Chicago (the most corrupt town on the planet as it used to be known) and am not abreast on developments or political issues. Usually inspectors are genuinely concerned with your safety, even if you don't understand the code.

Member Spotlight
Member Since: 11/17/00
Posts: 2232
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box

Who's Online
1 registered (ghost307), 67 Guests and 11 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 49
HotLine1 43
gfretwell 18
Ruben Rocha 12
Trumpy 9
Newest Members
Freecrowder, clee512, Jdscott2005, FAIZAN, Regitest2

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals