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#82204 - 10/23/02 06:09 AM recessed cans over hot tubs
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it has always been my impression that the "zone" over a tub measuring 8' from the lip of the tub up and 3' out needs to be a covered recesed can. but that isn't what the code says. any opinions?

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#82205 - 10/23/02 06:48 AM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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You can put a sconce there if you want, I have so far in two houses after finding out that there wasn't a code disallowing them.

These were tub spaces, not showers, and they were in the plans...
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#82206 - 10/23/02 08:55 AM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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410.4(D) will permit a surface mounted, or recessed fixtures in "the zone". Only cord connected, hanging, track, or pendant fixtures, and paddle fans are prohibited.

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#82207 - 10/23/02 01:28 PM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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Does a sconce in this tub location need to be listed "for use in a wet location"?

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#82208 - 10/24/02 01:46 PM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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Spyder, A wall next to a tub is no more a wet location than a wall next to a sink.
Falcon, you said correctly, that is not what the code says.
Hey I want cool name too. Maybe I clould be Cheetah or something like that.

[This message has been edited by Electricmanscott (edited 10-24-2002).]

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#82209 - 10/24/02 05:20 PM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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Electricman Scott,
Thanks for the info and the positive feedback on the nickname

Phil

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#82210 - 10/25/02 04:41 AM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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Hyy 66,

You can put a wall mounted fixture in "the zone"?!

Call me(drum roll please)...."The Hawk"

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#82211 - 10/25/02 07:37 AM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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Redsy,

My gut feeling says "no", but I've yet to find anything saying so, unless one would want to stretch 410.4(A)&(B)...

Plus, back during the infancy of this forum, Bill pointed this out (I concede that it may have been an anomoly of the '99 code...).

Was that a crushed "buzz" roll or an open 32nd note roll? (I can only do the open ones... never have figured out the crushed thing...)

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#82212 - 10/25/02 08:45 AM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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'66',

The buzzroll is easier because it doesn't require the discipline of an open 32nd (double-stroke). Just mush(not a typo) the sticks into the head and it happens.

...The Hawk

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#82213 - 10/25/02 03:04 PM Re: recessed cans over hot tubs
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I think Im going to pass on "cheetah" and go with Mongoose. Please update your files!

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