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#81696 - 09/11/02 06:45 PM GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
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Registered: 05/25/02
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Loc: Fredericktown, OH, U.S.A
I work in a factory that basicly has no GFCI in it my boss has asked me to find out what the code is on were we need to install them. we have outlets on almost every i beam throughout the plant with hard wired extension cords and some of the outlets are running next to water pipe that comes down the i beams. guys i need alittle help on this were all do we need to have GFCI's

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#81697 - 09/11/02 07:27 PM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
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Registered: 11/10/00
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Loc: IL
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210.8(B) Other Than Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in (1), (2), and (3) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel:
(1) Bathrooms
(2) Rooftops
(3) Kitchens

Per the code the above are the locations where GFCI protected receptacles are required. Of course 527.6 requires that any temporary wiring used for repair or maintenance must have GFCI protection. Extension cords are temporary wiring. So you either use portable GFCIs of install GFCI protected receptacles anywhere maintenance or repair work could be done.
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#81698 - 09/11/02 07:31 PM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
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See the 2002 NEC Index:

Ground-fault circuit-interrupters
Accessory buildings, dwelling units, 210.8(A)(2)
Basements, dwelling units, unfinished, 210.8(A)(5)
Bathtubs, hydromassage, 680.71
Definition, Art. 100-I
Deicing and snow-melting equipment, 426.32
Electrically operated pool covers, 680.27(B)(2)
Fountains, 680.51(A)
Garages, commercial, 511.12
Garages, dwelling units, 210.8(A)(2)
Permitted uses, 210.8, 215.9
Personnel, protection for, 426.32
Pipeline heating, 427.27
Pools and tubs for therapeutic use, 680.62(A)
Receptacles, 210.8
Bathrooms, in dwelling units, 210.8(A)(1)
Bathrooms in other than dwelling units, 210.8(B)(1)
Boathouses, 555.19(B)
Construction sites, at, 527.6
Existing, 406.3(D)(2)
Garages, in dwelling units, 210.8(A)(2)
Health care facilities, 517.2(A)
Kitchens in dwelling units, 210.8(A)(6)
Marinas and boatyards, 555.19(B)
Mobile homes, 550.13(B), 550.32(E)
Outdoors, dwelling units, 210.8(A)(3)
Park trailers, 552.41(C)
Pools, 680.5, 680.6, 680.22, 680.23, 680.32
Recreational vehicles, 551.40(C), 551.41(C), 551.71
Required, 210.8
Rooftops in other than dwelling units, 210.8(B)(2)
Sensitive electronic equipment, 647.7(A)
Spas and hot tubs, 680.42, 680.43, 680.44, 680.57
Wet bar sinks, 210.8(A)(7)

PS: See 600.10(C) and 620.85,

[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 09-11-2002).]
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#81699 - 09/11/02 08:46 PM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
jlhmaint Offline
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Registered: 05/25/02
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Loc: Fredericktown, OH, U.S.A
i saw both of the sections you guys have listed in my nec book when i was looking today. the temp wiring (extension cords) are used by everyone in the shop so that is what i thought they should be protected. When we say kitchen does that include a break area that has 3 microwaves and a fridge.

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#81700 - 09/12/02 03:50 AM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
sparky Offline
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Registered: 10/18/00
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jlhmaint,
there's really no definition of kitchen, however most may side with a food preperation area......

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#81701 - 09/12/02 05:02 AM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
Joe Tedesco Offline
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Registered: 10/07/00
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Loc: Boston, Massachusetts USA
NFPA Definition of a Kitchen.

An area designated for storage, preparation, cooking, and serving of food for members.
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#81702 - 09/12/02 06:55 PM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
harold endean Offline
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Registered: 02/16/02
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Loc: Boonton, NJ
Just my 2 cents but what code book are you following? Here in NJ it is the 1999 NEC.

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#81703 - 09/12/02 07:34 PM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
spkjpr Offline
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Registered: 12/01/00
Posts: 226
Loc: Sedalia,MO, USA
JLH in our plant we use GFI for all watercoolers, the rest of them are not. We also use them on extension cords.

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#81704 - 09/17/02 08:11 PM Re: GFCI recep in industrial settings, need some code help.
John Steinke Offline
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Registered: 04/03/01
Posts: 509
Loc: Reno,Nv., USA
As a rule of thumb, GFI's go where ever moisture is likely to be present. Therefore, a breakroom without a sink would probably not "need" them.
Also, as a rule of thumb, GFI's might NOT be a good idea if the appliance messes up the power, by either having a motor start up against a load (refrigerator or compressor), or a large transformer (flourescent lights, battery chargers). I'd also think twice about GFI's serving equipment that invariable has some current leakage (dishwashers, garbage disposals).
GFI's are very good detectors of damaged extension cords.

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