ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 19
Recent Posts
Anyone hiring inspectors?
by HotLine1. 03/27/17 08:03 AM
Old decora style outlets
by Admin. 03/25/17 11:40 AM
ESA Arc flash course
by TheShockDoctors. 03/24/17 10:15 AM
fuse rejectors
by HotLine1. 03/24/17 07:53 AM
Another Forum Update
by Admin. 03/22/17 03:04 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
231,626 Are you busy
166,455 Re: Forum
160,717 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 68 guests, and 11 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#8126 - 03/09/02 10:32 AM finding open wire in wall  
donles  Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 83
Pennsylvania
Anyone know of an instrument that would allow me to trace a NM cable that's running within a house's exterior wall? Brick exterior/ drywall interior.
I was asked to find why three outdoor receptacles are not working. The house is 10 years old and the cheapie receptacles are backwired. I've gone through and looked at and replaced the connection method at all receptacles that I think could be feeding these three. I've looked in the breaker panels for loose connections or bad breakers.
The outlets are about 30' apart. On one end the box has two cables entering, one the opposite end, one cable enters, so I think I know how the circuit should flow. I'm beginning to think that these receptacles were never powered even though there appears to be a feed coming into one box or the cable has been cut while some work was being done and somehow nothing was done about it.
I seem to remember an instrument called a tick tracer for tracing cables in walls.
Could someone elaborate?
don


Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#8127 - 03/09/02 11:10 AM Re: finding open wire in wall  
Electricmanscott  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,457
Holden, MA USA
Try X-ray vision glasses. They work well with the ladies also! Seriously I am not sure about such a tool. I have a Volt Tick that idebtifies voltage wihtout making contact. Perhaps there is a variation of this that will do what you want. I'm sure someone here will know.


#8128 - 03/09/02 11:33 AM Re: finding open wire in wall  
golf junkie  Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 507
York, NE
We use our underground locator when faced with this situation.

Ours is made by progressive electronics, but any RF locator should work. Just hook it to the feed at the receptacle and trace back til the signal goes away. That point will be your break.

I assume that you have checked for the ground and neutral at the recep.??

GJ


#8129 - 03/09/02 07:12 PM Re: finding open wire in wall  
Bill Addiss  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,875
NY, USA
Don,

First question I always ask is did they ever work? Did you check for GFCIs around the house? The feed may come from a GFCI protected outlet somewhere. Maybe something loosened up or was changed in one of these locations.

Good Luck,

Bill


#8130 - 03/10/02 12:37 AM Re: finding open wire in wall  
wolfdog  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 135
Dallas,TX
Amprobe makes a kit that will track live or dead wires. It aint cheap,but it does work.

Here is a description from W.W. Grainger
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611625570



Member Spotlight
Posts: 165
Joined: March 2007
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.016s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.7663 MB (Peak: 0.9051 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-03-28 06:21:01 UTC