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#78967 - 11/14/01 06:56 AM 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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How many Receptacles are needed when there are 2 sinks in a Bathroom?
Would 1 Duplex (GFCI protected) between them satisfy the rule? Or must it be 2 separate 'Outlets' as per definition?

What do you think?

Bill

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#78968 - 11/14/01 07:34 AM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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1 duplex between them would be sufficient as long as the sinks are less than 1800 mm appart and the receptacle is less than 900 mm from either.

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#78969 - 11/14/01 08:44 AM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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Hi Safari.

Well, I guess the metric system has arrived!

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#78970 - 11/14/01 10:30 AM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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Bill;
One GFCI between would satisfy the code requirement for Bathroom gfcis, as long as no sink would be farther away from the outlet than 36 inches.

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#78971 - 11/14/01 01:15 PM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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An outlet where one or more recetacles are installed

Ok, a regular GFI receptacle rates here ?is that the Q?

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#78972 - 11/14/01 03:07 PM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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Thanks for the responses.

The question came up at a local Code Changes Seminar and the Instructor was saying that the intent here is for each sink to have it's own 'outlet'. An 'outlet' being defined as in Art 100 which means that a Duplex would only count as one.

Bill

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#78973 - 11/16/01 03:26 PM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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Does everyone read this as meaning that a duplex would suffice between the sinks?

Bill

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#78974 - 01/15/02 10:54 AM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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Just going over old queries and found your questions, Bill. I agree (or interpret) that one duplex is all that is required..no matter how many sinks, as long as it is within 3'of each sink's edge. Your workshop instructor was mistaken. All that is necessary is that someone can plug in some bathroom appliance without using an extension cord, since the appliance cords can't be longer than 3'.
In reality, the Code wording results in two receptacles (one for each sink), since the wall space between the sinks is usually pre-empted by the mirror.

[This message has been edited by Elzappr (edited 01-15-2002).]

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#78975 - 01/15/02 04:01 PM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
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I don't see how anyone can figure that this article requires an outlet for each sink. Must stay up nights conjuring these evil thoughts.

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#78976 - 01/15/02 05:01 PM Re: 210.52(D) 2002 NEC
Bill Addiss Offline
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Elzappr,

Where does it say that appliance cords can't be longer than 3 feet? I think that people would have a very hard time with hair dryers.

johngeorge,

I think I remember hearing him say that this was discussed at an IAEI meeting (in Mass?)Can anyone either confirm or deny that?

Bill

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