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#75349 - 02/23/07 02:40 PM Rope lights
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Does anyone have any experience with field-cuttable rope lighting?
I need to install about 60' of it under a custom residential bar, but I believe the stuff has had it's UL listing revoked.
Any insight would be appreciated.

John

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#75350 - 02/23/07 03:14 PM Re: Rope lights
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John:
Haven't seen 'cuttcble' in a while. The 'plug-in' that you can join together....but NOT cut, nor can you coil-up the excess IS UL labeled/listed, OK for indoor use, etc. Ya can't cut it though, nor can you hard wire it.

Other suggestion is Starfire, it's good, but $$$$$$$$$$$ real $$$.

John
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#75351 - 02/23/07 04:29 PM Re: Rope lights
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Thanks, John. I'll check out their website.

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#75352 - 02/23/07 06:02 PM Re: Rope lights
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Redsy
I just sent you an email with some info on this. Hope it helps.

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#75353 - 02/23/07 06:10 PM Re: Rope lights
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#75354 - 02/23/07 06:39 PM Re: Rope lights
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Redsy, read the third answer on this page . As far as I know there are no listed field cuttable rope lights.

Roger

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#75355 - 02/24/07 05:15 AM Re: Rope lights
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Thanks, everyone!

I once refused to install these, but this time I need to satisfy a good customer, and any other undercabinet lighting will not work.

I may use LED but as you know the price is indeed $$$$$$

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#75356 - 02/24/07 06:45 AM Re: Rope lights
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Registered: 10/01/02
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The stuff I've worked with is always "cuttable", however, it can only be cut at designated locations, marked on the rope, and only at about 18" intervals. This makes it difficult to use for precise runs, unless you get lucky to within a couple of inches.

I've had to use it for a number of applications. There are plenty of strip type lights that are much better and nicer looking, but the rope has the advantages of low cost and line voltage (no need to hide a bulky transformer).

There's a great lighting specialty dealer here in Orange, CA called Light Bulbs Etc. Very knowlegable and extreemly helpful. Their PH# is 714 532-1410. They can put you in the right direction.

Good Luck!

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#75357 - 02/24/07 07:37 AM Re: Rope lights
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As I understand the new rule/listing, you can cut it at the 18" interval but you can't assemble your own cord and plug. It isn't really rocket science to assemble the Duralight product but I guess U/L doesn't trust homeowners to do it. It is certainly not more complicated than putting on a cord cap or lamp holder.

I have a bunch of this stuff at my house and it is pretty good for dropping in crown or up under toe kicks. Just don't expect to ever see that "25,000" hours they brag about. That must be when the last segment burns out.
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#75358 - 02/24/07 07:59 AM Re: Rope lights
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Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 86
Loc: Alberta Canada
What about LED Redsy?-Try americanlighting.com a tonne of options here. Weve had alot of luck with their products.

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