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#75251 - 02/19/07 07:08 PM ground up or downon receptacles
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just wondering how the rest of the world installs their receptacles ground up or down?and why?does it really matter?
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#75252 - 02/19/07 07:35 PM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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Get the can opener, lol
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#75253 - 02/19/07 09:33 PM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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I install all my receptacles horizontally with the ground usually to the right.
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#75254 - 02/19/07 09:37 PM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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Here we go again....
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#75255 - 02/19/07 09:39 PM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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My place was built in 1940.... what's a ground?
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#75256 - 02/19/07 10:01 PM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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l'OH aucun ici nous allons encore !!!

dont get me started on this one
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#75257 - 02/19/07 10:47 PM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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New Zealand has the ground on the down or lower terminal of the socket.
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#75258 - 02/20/07 05:19 AM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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"New Zealand has the ground on the down or lower terminal of the socket."

So, is that ground up to us north of the equator?
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#75259 - 02/20/07 07:06 AM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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This question seems hauntingly familiar Deja Vu all over again.

You walked into it smokey! But, seriously, everybody has their opinions and applications for each option. Personally, anything industrial, I go with the ground up. The accepted logic is that sheet metal (and other conductive objects) can slide between the cord cap and the outlet, and with the ground DOWN, this can obviously cause a short. Not only could this cause damage to other sensitive equipment on the circuit, a sticky or bad breaker could let the fault linger enough to cause a fire. I'm sure the other folks on this forum have additional reasons for "ground-up" outlets.

On the other hand, for residential and "office" applications, people just don't want to see an "upside-down" (ground-up) outlet. They're used to seeing things a certain way, and that's the way they want it. Logic does not enter into it. Nobody wants to spend 4 hours flipping all the outlets on a finished job because the homeowner is weirded-out.

I have, however, flipped an outlet (ground-up) in residential work to identify a half-hot. This is usually appreciated by homeowners as long as they understand why it is done.

My $0.02, anyway
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#75260 - 02/20/07 07:33 AM Re: ground up or downon receptacles
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Smokey, your profile says you've been registered here for six years. You really ought to know better than to ask this particular question!
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