Things are getting out of hand here.
(A note to new Members)
Posts that should be in the Business Area are being posted in the General Discussion Area.
It's not fair on the Moderators of the General Area or the Moderators of the Business Area.
Please think carefully, before you post!.
If it applies to Business at all, as in bidding or pricing a job, post it in the Business Area.
It takes a lot to get a thread shifted.
Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green