The Electrical Contractor Network

ECN Electrical Forum
Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Books, Tools and Test Equipment for Electrical and Construction Trades

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#51981 - 05/16/05 07:57 PM photo cell staying on
eswets Offline
Member
Registered: 03/07/04
Posts: 56
Loc: Lansing, IL, USA
Installed a new post light last week, and could not get the lights to turn off. Replaced photo cell three times. Voltage was correct and line and load was correct. Finally found the problem. Any guesses to what happened.
Top
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
#51982 - 05/16/05 09:04 PM Re: photo cell staying on
Gregtaylor Offline
Member
Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 212
Loc: Boise, Idaho, USA
The sun never rose that day? What?!
Top
#51983 - 05/17/05 03:02 AM Re: photo cell staying on
Scott35 Offline

Broom Pusher and
Member
Registered: 10/19/00
Posts: 2724
Loc: Anaheim, CA. USA
Quote:

Installed a new post light last week, and could not get the lights to turn off. Replaced photo cell three times. Voltage was correct and line and load was correct. Finally found the problem. Any guesses to what happened?


Here are some guesses:

<OL TYPE=1>

[*] Did not turn off Power before Connecting Photocell (AKA - Wired it "Hot"),


[*] Did not have the "Light Limiter" slider up far enough (the metallic gizmo which slides over the PC's lens),


[*] Forgot to remove the "Tape" from the Lens after testing it - or (see #4)


[*] Did not remove the protective covering from the lens - if used,


[*] Bad, or non-existent "Neutral" connection to "Common Wire" of Photocell,


[*] Load Current exceeded the max. ratings of the Photocell, forcing it into an Arced closed situation,


[*] Left it in the "Test" mode, or some slider switch setting which relates to motion / light levels, or switch overide,


[*] Photocell was getting hit from something while in operation - like a Tree's Branches blowing in the wind were hitting the Photocell,


[*] Photocell was designed to turn loads "off" when dark, or something in this realm,


[*] Photocell was marked incorrectly - like intended to be used in conjunction with another component, or it was really a motion sensing - "off" or "on" device, or Line/Load incorrectly marked (grasping at straws here)


[*] Lighting Fixture(s) Posessed by a Demon, and Demon has no tolerance for Photo Controlled Apparatii.
</OL>

Any of these come close?

Scott35
_________________________
Scott " 35 " Thompson
Just Say NO To Green Eggs And Ham!
Top
#51984 - 05/17/05 05:10 AM Re: photo cell staying on
Dnkldorf Offline
Member
Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1091
Loc: nowhere usa
I had a bitch of a time with photocells a little while back on street lights, had the right voltage, but the buggers wouldn't work when plugged in.

Problem: nuetral tap 3 poles down dropping the nuetral out, when a load was applied.

Dnk.....
Top
#51985 - 05/17/05 08:38 AM Re: photo cell staying on
gfretwell Offline


Member
Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9066
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
How long are you waiting? The photocells I have will start out "on" and it takes a few minutes before it finally figures out the sun is up. It also seems to take full sun to turn it off.
_________________________
Greg Fretwell
Top
#51986 - 05/17/05 08:49 AM Re: photo cell staying on
NJwirenut Offline
Member
Registered: 09/15/01
Posts: 816
Loc: Bergen County, NJ
Some PC controls have a jumper wire to select operating mode, as well. By cutting or not cutting the wire, you select "Dark=Load OFF" or "Dark=Load ON"
Top
#51987 - 05/17/05 04:11 PM Re: photo cell staying on
e57 Offline
Member
Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2837
Loc: S.F.,CA USA
The piece of black tape you left over the "eye"?
_________________________
Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
Top
#51988 - 05/17/05 05:02 PM Re: photo cell staying on
frenchelectrican Offline


Member
Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 938
Loc: Wi/ Paris France { France for ...
other possibtly is the photo cell socket bypassing the photocell circuit

or other possiblty is the photocell is line up wrong way where the eyes is not getting correct light source

or other possiblty is the line - load bypassing the photoeye circuit
_________________________
Pas de problme,il marche n'est-ce pas?"(No problem, it works doesn't it?)

Top
#51989 - 05/17/05 05:28 PM Re: photo cell staying on
Sparks30 Offline
Member
Registered: 03/23/02
Posts: 125
Loc: Connecticut.usa
Does the post light have a ballast? If so did you conect the photo cell to the socket to photo cell. Had an apperntice do that once. Would not shut off.
Top
#51990 - 05/17/05 05:33 PM Re: photo cell staying on
NJ Wireman Offline
Member
Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 179
Loc: New Jersey (South Jersey)
Light is shinning to close to photocell causing it to think its sun. this has happened to me.
Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box

Recent Posts
Looking for older post
by sparkyinak
Today at 12:27 AM
License exam
by TRUE POWER
Yesterday at 11:33 PM
Members: Non-Members: Did you know?
by Admin
Yesterday at 02:34 PM
Safety at heights?
by HotLine1
01/21/17 08:51 PM
International Wire Colour Codes
by Texas_Ranger
01/21/17 03:29 PM

Who's Online
0 registered (), 74 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
New in the Gallery:
Desk-mounted "power-board"
Top Posters
gfretwell 9066
Trumpy 8560
pauluk 7693
HotLine1 6833
sparky 5545
Member Spotlight
Tom
Tom
Member Since: 01/01/01
Posts: 1069

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals