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#50244 - 03/27/05 11:36 PM Residential rough in  
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On a resi rough in should the breakers be terminated before inspection, or just the grounding and neutral conductors? I don't like the idea of the breakers being terminated in a hot panel with no devices installed yet.


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#50245 - 03/27/05 11:41 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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When I did houses in California we never set circuit breakers until we did the trim. Here in Idaho it's standard to install them at rough in, but there isn't a meter set until the final inspection so nothing is hot. Sometimes a meter is set earlier if a house needs heat etc. Since I don't do houses anymore I'm not sure how this is handled. I'm never comfortable with a situation where others can energize circuits that may not be clear.


#50246 - 03/28/05 01:42 AM Re: Residential rough in  
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Theft is a big problem here so we let it go until final.


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#50247 - 03/28/05 04:11 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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Around here the only things the inspector looks at during rough in are the ground path, neutral path and installation of the materials in the walls & ceilings. If all this is ok and I've put breakers in a (dead) panel they just ignore them. If the panel is hot he's gonna be "a tad" disturbed.
Sandsnow has the real point ... wanna buy them twice?


#50248 - 03/28/05 05:06 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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In SW Fla the panel and meter get set at the service rough and they fire it up with 1 GFCI breaker and the garage receptacle right after the roof is black.
The rest of the breakers get put in with the trim, close to the end.


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#50249 - 03/29/05 12:40 AM Re: Residential rough in  
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The purpose of a rough inspection is to check the work that will be concealed.


#50250 - 03/29/05 10:05 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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I would not expect the breakers to be installed on the rough inspection. I would expect maybe 1 or 2 breakers for a service inspection to get some temp power in a construction site, but the rest of the breakers I would see them on the final inspection. You don't want the painters to get slop all over the breakers no would we.


#50251 - 03/29/05 11:25 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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Thanks guys. hey Harold no worry about paint on the breakers here in Arizona they're always outside!


#50252 - 03/30/05 01:37 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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Another reason not to install and terminate all of the branch CBs at time of rough-in is safety. Do you really want anyone on the job to be able to switch on a CB and heat up a circuit with nothing terminated on the other end? Sounds like a good way to get a painter zapped!


#50253 - 03/30/05 02:59 PM Re: Residential rough in  
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We label the home runs and leave them tied up neatly (next to the panel, NOT terminated) so the inspector can look at what will be terminated. The only thing I terminate is the receptacle that is next to the panel.


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