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#50244 - 03/27/05 07:36 PM Residential rough in
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Registered: 03/31/04
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Loc: Tucson, AZ USA
On a resi rough in should the breakers be terminated before inspection, or just the grounding and neutral conductors? I don't like the idea of the breakers being terminated in a hot panel with no devices installed yet.

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#50245 - 03/27/05 07:41 PM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 03/02/05
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Loc: Boise, Idaho, USA
When I did houses in California we never set circuit breakers until we did the trim. Here in Idaho it's standard to install them at rough in, but there isn't a meter set until the final inspection so nothing is hot. Sometimes a meter is set earlier if a house needs heat etc. Since I don't do houses anymore I'm not sure how this is handled. I'm never comfortable with a situation where others can energize circuits that may not be clear.

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#50246 - 03/27/05 09:42 PM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 09/21/04
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Loc: Irvine, CA, USA
Theft is a big problem here so we let it go until final.
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#50247 - 03/28/05 12:11 PM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 08/30/01
Posts: 322
Loc: Loudoun Cty, VA
Around here the only things the inspector looks at during rough in are the ground path, neutral path and installation of the materials in the walls & ceilings. If all this is ok and I've put breakers in a (dead) panel they just ignore them. If the panel is hot he's gonna be "a tad" disturbed.
Sandsnow has the real point ... wanna buy them twice?

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#50248 - 03/28/05 01:06 PM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 07/20/04
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In SW Fla the panel and meter get set at the service rough and they fire it up with 1 GFCI breaker and the garage receptacle right after the roof is black.
The rest of the breakers get put in with the trim, close to the end.
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#50249 - 03/28/05 08:40 PM Re: Residential rough in
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The purpose of a rough inspection is to check the work that will be concealed.

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#50250 - 03/29/05 06:05 PM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 02/16/02
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Loc: Boonton, NJ
I would not expect the breakers to be installed on the rough inspection. I would expect maybe 1 or 2 breakers for a service inspection to get some temp power in a construction site, but the rest of the breakers I would see them on the final inspection. You don't want the painters to get slop all over the breakers no would we.

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#50251 - 03/29/05 07:25 PM Re: Residential rough in
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Thanks guys. hey Harold no worry about paint on the breakers here in Arizona they're always outside!

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#50252 - 03/30/05 09:37 AM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 04/30/01
Posts: 461
Loc: Straughn, IN 47387
Another reason not to install and terminate all of the branch CBs at time of rough-in is safety. Do you really want anyone on the job to be able to switch on a CB and heat up a circuit with nothing terminated on the other end? Sounds like a good way to get a painter zapped!

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#50253 - 03/30/05 10:59 AM Re: Residential rough in
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Registered: 04/15/04
Posts: 16
Loc: Mazomanie, WI, USA
We label the home runs and leave them tied up neatly (next to the panel, NOT terminated) so the inspector can look at what will be terminated. The only thing I terminate is the receptacle that is next to the panel.

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