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#49141 - 02/28/05 09:35 AM A/C buzzing on start up  
boggerbutt2454  Offline
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Heat pump makes buzzing noise on start up.
Checked for overcurrent, thinking bad compressor, checked for voltage drop, only drops 2 volts, equipment ground run in conduit with feeders and all connections tight. conduit straped properly any ideas?


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#49142 - 02/28/05 09:53 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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Im thinking that the capacitor is bad and not giving the motor that extra umf it needs to get started.
hope that helps.

John.


#49143 - 02/28/05 10:41 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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Bad capacitor(s).

Wire(s) burned.

Relay bad.

Perhaps a bad compressor.

Some knowledgable troubleshooting will confirm the problem.

I don't think that it would be wise to post step by step on this bulletin board.


#49144 - 02/28/05 06:09 PM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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boggerbutt,
What part of the A/C unit is actually making the buzzing sound?.
The Compressor Start contactor can buzz if there is not enough current to pull the armature in.
A bad compressor will usually cycle on and off, on the Overload if there is a problem with the windings.
Sure sounds like a faulty Capacitor though.
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#49145 - 02/28/05 06:16 PM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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If a contactor coil doesn't have the strength to pull the contactor closed firmly the contactor will chatter loudly.

I'd find the problem by pulling the cover and either using a stethoscope (which I carry on my truck) with an open tube to track it down or I'd touch all suspects with a long screwdriver pressing the handle against my ear.


#49146 - 03/01/05 12:09 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
chi spark  Offline
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Does the noise go away after 20-30 secs? The contactor can chatter from low volts(coil voltage-usually 24vac). The compressor can be noisy on a hard start. Then as it starts to heat/cool, it can quiet down. What is outside temp by you?

edit: A bad or dirty contactor can also buzz. How old is the h/p? Are you inclined to open this thing up?

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#49147 - 03/01/05 04:18 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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What brand/size/voltage are we talking about here?.
Is it a Hi-Wall or a Cassette or a Ducted system?
I'm very familiar with the Carrier and Mitsubishi and Toshiba units.
Chi Spark,
Good point, does it use the old R-22 or the newer R-134a or R-404 High Pressure Refrigerant.
It can make the difference.
Has the unit been serviced lately?
Is the Indoor unit Heating and Cooling as it should?
Is the Indoor unit coming out with a fault code?.


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#49148 - 03/02/05 08:18 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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These is a Carrier unit and the capacitor is good, the compressor is good, I've check the fan and contactor. The noise actual is coming from the wires in the conduit and you can feel them vibrate in you hand when the unit turns on. The line set is 75-100 feet long and has a rise of about 15-20 feet as the condensor is on the roof. It also uses R-22 refrig.


#49149 - 03/02/05 08:26 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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Sorry, it is a 208-230 volt single phase unit. It calls for min. 31.9 amp circuit with 50 amp max. OCP and unit is fed with #8 THHN in 3/4 EMT. Straps are tight, conduit is stopped and transitioned with flex so transmition of vibration is not a factor.LRA is 140 A, unit at start up pulling about 76 amps then drops back and runs around 15-16 amps. Connections are tight know signs of overheating or burned parts. I checked compressor windings and they read OK.


#49150 - 03/02/05 09:53 AM Re: A/C buzzing on start up  
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sounds normal to me.



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