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#43328 - 10/10/04 07:13 PM nuetral question
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This might be a dum question and it mighthave been asked before, but here goes. Why does the nuetral always seem to burn? Me and the guys I work with have all wondered why this happens. Thanks for any information that you can give me.

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#43329 - 10/10/04 07:18 PM Re: nuetral question
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First thing that comes to mind is unbalanced load. Second, the old edison wiring method on 3-ph systems where they shared 3 hots of a, b & c phase and used one nuetral.

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#43330 - 10/10/04 07:44 PM Re: nuetral question
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the same thing with multicircuit single phase also when someone is not too bright with L-N-L set up and when the load get uneven it will actally over heat too and once a while i will see the diy's do put the breaker on wrong leg and end up burn the netural wire pretty bad i did see it happend few places it is no fun to fix it right


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#43331 - 10/10/04 11:09 PM Re: nuetral question
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First thing that comes to mind is unbalanced load.

I'd second that!.
Neutrals in 3 phase wye systems carry the (usually minimal) out-of-balance current and unless there is a gross imbalance of the loads, shouldn't usually be a problem.
However, one situation where I have seen a Neutral get so hot the PVC insulation melted off it, was where an Electrician used a Neutral that was only half the size that it should have been, in a 3wire 230 system over here.

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#43332 - 10/11/04 03:17 AM Re: nuetral question
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Computers and other non-linear loads add to neutral overheating. any circuit that will have a lot of electronics need it own neutral. The other problem that I have found is loose connections at the neutral bar due to more than one wire under the screw.

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#43333 - 10/11/04 07:49 AM Re: nuetral question
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Computers and other non-linear loads add to neutral overheating.

Only on three phase wye systems. The neutral problem with nonlinear loads does not happen on single phase 120/240 volt three wire systems.
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#43334 - 10/11/04 07:12 PM Re: nuetral question
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You will usually find this situation when someone has relocated breakers in a panel and now have both circuits on a three wire circuit on the same leg in the panel. Instead of the neutral carrying the difference between the two circuits now it is additive. If you have two 20 amp breakers the neutral could concievably carry 40 amps, hence the burnt or discolored neutral wire. And as Stevemc stated, it is caused by loose connections at the neutral bar. I make it a habit that whenever I open a customers panel I tighten all connections. Takes a minute and if they are there it leaves an impression.
Ron

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