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#42247 - 09/17/04 05:21 PM Here's a scary site....
NJwirenut Offline

Registered: 09/15/01
Posts: 816
Loc: Bergen County, NJ

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#42248 - 09/17/04 07:25 PM Re: Here's a scary site....
Dave55 Offline

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 666
Loc: Crystal Lake, Illinois, USA
Yes, please, if your voltage varies check the neutral where it enters your house. Might be better advice to call the POCO.


#42249 - 09/17/04 08:45 PM Re: Here's a scary site....
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Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 7
Loc: Houston
Okay that was fun... I liked this one.

"What are the advantages and disadvantages of electricity or static electricity?"

I cut it twice and it's still to short!

#42250 - 09/17/04 09:35 PM Re: Here's a scary site....
iwire Offline

Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 4343
Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
How can you get 277 volt from residential service?

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

#42251 - 09/18/04 04:06 AM Re: Here's a scary site....
Trumpy Offline


Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8553
Loc: SI,New Zealand
From the site:
What will electricity travel through the fastest: plastic, paper or yarn?

There are some strange questions on that site, wierd answers too!.
Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

#42252 - 09/18/04 04:38 AM Re: Here's a scary site....
shortcircuit Offline

Registered: 06/27/04
Posts: 608
Loc: massachusetts
I think some of the advice on that site is dangerous and may hurt someone or worse.
277 volt lighting in a dwelling is not allowed by the code 210.6(A)

#42253 - 09/18/04 07:21 AM Re: Here's a scary site....
GA76JW Offline

Registered: 03/20/04
Posts: 195
Loc: Suwanee, GA USA
How do you calculate the total amps used in the house when there are 110V and 220V appliances?

Lots of math involved here and calculations that generally beat up on the average electrician. You can use a rule of thumb, but you know none of this stuff is running continuously so you can't say it's in stone. Take the wattage like on a stove, maybe it's 8500 watts. The math goes like this P =E times I So then, you rework the formula using simple algebra, I = P divided by E. So again, 8500/240 can be #14. We never do this, it's a pain to carry the lighter wire just for lights. So you can figure any appliance this way. The CEC/NEC factors in what are continuous/non-continuos loads though since not all things are turned on at the same time which would allow a standard home to get away with a 100 amp service etc etc. Hope that helps, when in doubt, call a qualified electrician

The original question was "How do you calculate total amps in the house" and the person then goes on to tell him something about #14 and that it is a pain to carry the lighter wire just for lights? I thought he was talking about a stove? I think the best advice given on that whole site (that I saw) was the last line of this one.

when in doubt, call a qualified electrician

[This message has been edited by GA76Apprentice (edited 09-18-2004).]
"If common sense was common, everyone would have it"-not sure, someone here

#42254 - 09/18/04 10:00 PM Re: Here's a scary site....
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Registered: 05/01/04
Posts: 395
Loc: Budapest, Hungary
I know what are the disadvantages of static electricity. Am I an expert?

Please someone tell me a good electrician in Budapest!

One more thing for safety, I walk around the city, I see people working on the top of buildings, with absolutely no security. I guess life is cheaper than we think. Or education missed something very important.

[This message has been edited by Gloria (edited 09-19-2004).]
The world is full of beauty if the heart is full of love

#42255 - 09/18/04 10:32 PM Re: Here's a scary site....
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Registered: 07/28/03
Posts: 145
Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
I couldn't resist:

Question by anonymous asked on June 21, 2004, at 2:14 pm.
How much electricity does an average 2-story 3-bedroom house use per day, per month, or per year?

Answer by anonymous contributed on September 19, 2004, at 00:26am.

this is easy. first find out how much electricity an average 2-story 4-bedroom house uses per day, month and year. THEN find out how much electricity an average 2-story 2-bedroom house uses per day, month and year.

Add the two amounts.

Divide by two.

There's your answer!
"When in doubt, short it out"

#42256 - 09/19/04 12:09 AM Re: Here's a scary site....
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Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 615
Loc: Palo Alto, CA, USA
Should a 35 year old house with 100 amp service be upgraded?

Yes, most definitely! You should upgrade the old house to a new one with 200 amp service.

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