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#42232 - 09/17/04 08:18 AM fill factor in a box  
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do'es a gfi plug change the fill factor in a box


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#42233 - 09/17/04 09:18 AM Re: fill factor in a box  
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No. Each yoke or strap counts as two conductors, regardless of its physical size.


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#42234 - 09/17/04 09:09 PM Re: fill factor in a box  
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It is always a wise idea to use a deep box for GFIs, dimmers, etc.

I wonder why the code doesn't address the extra space that GFIs take up??

Peter


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#42235 - 09/17/04 09:38 PM Re: fill factor in a box  
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If the box is too small. Theres is always the GFI Breaker. No space problems there [Linked Image]


#42236 - 09/18/04 02:19 AM Re: fill factor in a box  
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GFCI breaker.

Higher cost, more likely to trip from cumulative leakage currents and you have to go find it if it trips.

I will stick with a GFCI outlets in deep boxes at the point of use. [Linked Image]

The majority of our prints require GFCI outlets at each location that needs GFCI protection. [Linked Image]

Bob


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#42237 - 09/18/04 11:05 AM Re: fill factor in a box  
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Yeah, that's the other thing: GFI's in standard boxes.
It's a good idea to use a larger box but not mandatory. Most of us will learn by experience in this regard because you will often have a ground fault after cramming all of that into the box!

We don't need the NEC to dictate our every move do we? That book keeps getting thicker & thicker as it is...

Anyone who has ever installed a GFI receptacle in a standard sized weather-proof box knows that if you have more than one cable entering the box you will have one helluva time getting that receptacle into the box. And so you add a weather-proof extension ring and you're good to go.
Same with an indoor box: Use a 20.5 cu. in. or even a 22 cu. in. if you have more than one romex to contend with. You'll be glad you do at trim-out.

:~)



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