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#39928 - 07/06/04 05:39 PM Plugtail
ComputerWizKid Offline

Registered: 09/20/03
Posts: 116
Loc: Connecticut, USA
Has anybody looked at these yet? . I wonder what the long term reliablity will be, and how well that thing in the back stays in.
Theres always enough room in the junction box.You just need a bigger hammer

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#39929 - 07/06/04 06:06 PM Re: Plugtail
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Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2837
Loc: S.F.,CA USA
Our usual rocker crew will have a hay day with those! Guarranteed to have every wire, and that plug tore up, bag and plug full of mud.
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#39930 - 07/06/04 06:23 PM Re: Plugtail
electricman2 Offline

Registered: 11/09/03
Posts: 234
Loc: Thomasville, NC USA
Did everyone notice that in the picture the outlet is installed gound pin up?

#39931 - 07/06/04 06:43 PM Re: Plugtail
Sir Arcsalot Offline

Registered: 11/17/03
Posts: 117
Loc: Lynden, Washington
I wonder if they'll eventually come in "audio grade"...

Sorry folks, I just couldn't resist!

Actually, it does look pretty slick.
No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.

#39932 - 07/06/04 07:59 PM Re: Plugtail
Bjarney Offline

Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 2561
Loc: West-Southern Inner-Northeast ...
Sir Arcs — You could always buy a Dewar of liquid nitrogen and make your own.

#39933 - 07/06/04 08:51 PM Re: Plugtail
JCooper Offline

Registered: 12/30/02
Posts: 229
Loc: Kendall Park, NJ USA
So do you think they use 12 or 14 awg wire on the pigtail, and how would that affect the install if put on a 20 amp circ?

#39934 - 07/06/04 09:28 PM Re: Plugtail
SolarPowered Offline

Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 615
Loc: Palo Alto, CA, USA
"Did everyone notice that in the picture the outlet is installed gound pin up?"

Yes, I noticed that it was upside down, too! It even has writing on it that's right reading when it's rightside up, and they still got it wrong.

#39935 - 07/07/04 03:25 AM Re: Plugtail
32VAC Offline

Registered: 06/28/04
Posts: 203
Loc: Alice Springs, NT, Australia
[/url] shows a different method of connecting to outlets using insulation displacement connectors

#39936 - 07/07/04 04:23 AM Re: Plugtail
Fred Offline

Registered: 04/30/01
Posts: 461
Loc: Straughn, IN 47387
The cut sheet says the PlugTail conductors are #12 THHN copper conductor, 6" leads, stripped, solid or stranded and rated as permanent part of the device.

#39937 - 07/07/04 02:47 PM Re: Plugtail
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Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
It looks a little odd at first, but thinking about it further it should be all right so long as the actually connectors are tight.

It looks as though they might be a slight variation on the 1/4-inch spade terminals which are common in automotive applications. The latter stand up to high-ish currents at low voltages, with lots of movement and vibration.


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