ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#37103 - 04/21/04 01:06 PM ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
sparkync Offline
Registered: 10/17/02
Posts: 809
Loc: NC
How do some of you mount the ceiling fans in dropped ceiling areas? I'll be securing my fan to the structual ceiling in a house, then the rod will be coming down through the suspended ceiling tile. Does anyone make a "fake canopy" that will fit over the rod as it comes through the ceiling tile, to give it a "finished look"?
If there was a way to secure it, I could probably use the one that comes with the fan, but then that would leave the fan box and the electrical connections exposed in the ceiling. Thanks for suggestions. Steve
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
#37104 - 04/21/04 01:41 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
mvrandazzo Offline
Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 110
There is a fan rated box that has a t-grid bracket. I believe Caddy makes one. The box is mounted to the bracket via a clip that extends through the center knock out of the box and through the bracket. The clip has a hole that you can fasten a support tie to it. When mounted with a 1/2" mud ring the box is flush with the ceiling tile. If the fan is already mounted to the structure and the rod is passing through the ceiling tile I've seen the finish cover on the underside of the ceiling tile. It is then tightened snug against the tile. I don't believe this would be acceptible as it would leave the j-box wires exposed. Hope this helps.

Blessings. Mark
#37105 - 04/21/04 01:49 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 172
Loc: toronto canada
This is a good question and to expand on it how do you mount a fan to an existing ceiling box when the ceiling is existing drywall?
#37106 - 04/21/04 02:07 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
iwire Offline
Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 4391
Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
You rip the existing box out and install a new one.

This is not as bad as it seems there are some great products out there to do this and if your careful it can be done with no damage.
Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
#37107 - 04/21/04 02:07 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
frenchelectrican Offline
Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 939
Loc: Wi/ Paris France { France for ...
ok there are few options to deal with the celeing fan boxes for supensioned celeings ;

one: you can make the down rod longer [ this is not my favored useage because the viberation and fan will wobble more too]

you can get the celeing fan box for the t grid i am sure few electrical supply some case big box store might have it. and make new box there and the bracket do sit on the t grid and have support cable go to the old ceiling and the old fan box if there you might have to get the extendstion ring for it and run new wire from the ring to new box.
[this is better route]

just make sure your fan is not less than 7 feet above the floor level.

merci , marc
Pas de problme,il marche n'est-ce pas?"(No problem, it works doesn't it?)

#37108 - 04/21/04 08:32 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
arseegee Offline
Registered: 01/28/02
Posts: 324
Loc: Statesboro, GA USA
Well you can get the caddy or B-line T bar fan box or you can get creative. I have done both. The Caddy boxes were over $25 the last time i used one and a special order item around here. I have used strut and allthread to drop down but man is it time consuming.

I saw one company use a 2x2 piece of 3/4" plywood with a pancake box as a fan support. That seems quick and easy but it definately did not give the proper support for a fan. And i'm sure it will look nasty in year or two after gravity takes its toll.
#37109 - 04/21/04 08:42 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
Jps1006 Offline
Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 615
Loc: Northern IL
I've done the 2x2 3/4 plywood before, except I brought pencil rod off of each corner. I also used 2x4 behind the box so that the screws could grab more than 3/4" of meat.
#37110 - 04/22/04 05:14 AM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
chi spark Offline
Registered: 01/06/04
Posts: 105
Loc: Chicago IL USA
There is also a canopy for appearances- it slides on downrod with a set screw to hold in desired position. This would go on rod below ceiling tile, not replace the necessary cover at hanging box on originial ceiling. I'll try to find it 4 u. Can you use a 3/4" swivel hub cover for the 1900? Is that application "fan-rated"? That would free up the mfr's cover to adapt 4 your use.
#37111 - 04/22/04 06:20 PM Re: ceiling fans, dropped ceilings
sparkync Offline
Registered: 10/17/02
Posts: 809
Loc: NC
"chi spark", I think I like your idea, if the canopies with the set screw can be found in the different colors that would match the ceiling fan. Probably the most used colors would be white, polished brass, and antique brass, though I know there are many more. If you know a company that makes these canopies, I would appreciate the info. As far as the down rod, yes I'll probably have to get a longer down rod, possibly a 12 inch or 18 inch. I won't need anything longer, because the ceiling is not going to be dropped very much. Thanks for all the input... Steve

Member Spotlight
Member Since: 11/17/00
Posts: 2232
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box

Who's Online
0 registered (), 57 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 51
HotLine1 43
gfretwell 17
Trumpy 16
Ruben Rocha 13
Newest Members
clee512, Jdscott2005, FAIZAN, Regitest2, sureshazhagai

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals