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#36961 - 04/19/04 06:45 PM panels in laundry rooms
Jeff N Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: Nantucket Ma.
Our local AHJ is saying that a service or subpanel may not be located in a laundry room(not closet) 240.24(D) states not in vicinity of easily ignitable material. all working space requirements are met. What do you think.
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#36962 - 04/19/04 07:20 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
OhmSweetOhm Offline
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Registered: 04/15/04
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Loc: Mazomanie, WI, USA
Hi Jeff:

Could you provide a little more information about the residence? Is this a multiple-occupancy setting? If so, I would probably agree with the AHJ, because of water/gas/excessive lint potential. Plus, laundry rooms at larger facilities can get a lot of traffic and a panel/sub panel would be safer out-of-sight. 240.24 (B) exceptions 1 or 2 may apply here, too, which can allows you to locate the panel in a separate, secured section of the basement. Again, more info would help us help you!
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#36963 - 04/19/04 07:44 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
Ryan_J Offline
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Registered: 08/19/03
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Loc: West Jordan, Utah, USA
I say its permitted.

When you think about that section, ponder this as well: What are we protecting here? The clothes from the panel? If so, and the panel is that hot, we probably already have a fire on our hands. Are we protecting the panel from burning clothing?

In my opinion, there are bigger fish to fry from an inspction point of view.
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#36964 - 04/19/04 08:03 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
DougW Offline
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Registered: 06/08/03
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Loc: North Chicago, IL
The biggest problem I could see (from a Fire Department point of view) would be the potential for lint buildup if the dryer isn't maintained/cleaned correctly.

As long as the housekeeping is good, and the dryer doesn't vent to the inside you should be alright. I know that if my AHJ ever made that requirement, about 75% of the houses in my town would be up feces creek - including mine. In the old days, the "laundry" area was a popular point for panel placement.
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#36965 - 04/19/04 08:53 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
Lostazhell Offline
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Registered: 02/21/04
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Doug's thinking along my thoughtlines... The only thing I could relate to "easily ignitable materials" would be a "lint issue" (short of him expecting a gas leak! Every laundy room I've been into has lint in the wierdest places...
With a panel installed properly & the door kept closed, I don't think it would be a huge issue though. How close is the panel to the dryer?
-Randy
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#36966 - 04/20/04 04:15 AM Re: panels in laundry rooms
Jeff N Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 13
Loc: Nantucket Ma.
Single family residence - the room is (9' X 11').The dryer is 5' away from the panel. If the lint from the dryer is a problem why is the laundry room not treated as a classified location?
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#36967 - 04/20/04 05:11 AM Re: panels in laundry rooms
earlydean Offline
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Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 751
Loc: Griswold, CT, USA
Jeff,
I agree, your AHJ is inventing code. Not a good thing for an inspector to do. Call him on this one.
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#36968 - 04/20/04 03:11 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
Electricmanscott Offline
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Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1457
Loc: Holden, MA USA
So I guess panels can't be in basements either. Or garages. Where do you draw the line? He's reaching here.
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#36969 - 04/20/04 05:12 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
OhmSweetOhm Offline
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Registered: 04/15/04
Posts: 20
Loc: Mazomanie, WI, USA
Jeff:

Now that I know this is a single family dwelling, I'd have to agree that it should be acceptable to have the panel installed in the area you specified, especially since it meets 240.24(D). Did the AHJ give you a specific reason why you can't do this? Ryan_J, you're right, there are definitely bigger fish to fry out there!
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#36970 - 04/20/04 05:31 PM Re: panels in laundry rooms
Jeff N Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 13
Loc: Nantucket Ma.
He is basing this on the easily ignitable nature of laundry. Go figure.
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