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#36454 - 04/07/04 08:33 AM Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
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Registered: 08/19/02
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How does the ground wire attach to these clips? Do you crimp it on somehow?

Also, do you trust these? Wouldn't it be better to just use the pre-made grounding pigtails with a lug for a screw to the box? Or are there some cases where you don't have a choice but to use this:



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#36455 - 04/07/04 09:52 AM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
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They seem to have limited use on bare, solid copper conductors and steel boxes {without plaster rings, maybe?}

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#36456 - 04/07/04 10:39 AM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
hbiss Offline
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Registered: 12/16/03
Posts: 893
Loc: Hawthorne, NY USA
You insert it from the bottom of the clip, the part that will be inside the box. Leave it extend above the clip about 1/2". Now, push the clip down over the side of the box (with whatever will work), bend the 1/2" tail over the side of the box and trim it off if necessary.

That said, these things are a big PITA! I rarely use them and, as said, will only work on a straight sided box.

-Hal

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#36457 - 04/07/04 01:08 PM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
kyme Offline
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Registered: 09/25/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Kentucky
I have noticed that most of the bathroom
vent fans come with that type of grounding
system, i have always hated them but with the
limited space in their junction box that is about the only option.

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#36458 - 04/07/04 01:48 PM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
CTwireman Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 839
Loc: Connecticut, USA
Those are a pain in the rear. I much prefer the ground screws. However, those have come in handy in a pinch.

One time I needed to use a clip to ground an ancient 4S box that did not have a tapped hole for the ground screw.

Peter
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#36459 - 04/08/04 01:48 AM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
pauluk Offline
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Registered: 08/11/01
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Maybe it's just my background and the fact that I've never used these things, but somehow they don't look anything like as secure as attaching the ground wire with a screw.

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#36460 - 04/08/04 12:25 PM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
BigJohn Offline
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Registered: 03/06/04
Posts: 352
Loc: Boston, MA
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...Somehow they don't look anything like as secure as attaching the ground wire with a screw.

That's why I don't like to use 'em. Not only are they a pain, but I've seen them installed incorrectly several times (which led to a really poor connection) and even when done properly, some of them didn't seem to grip the conductor very well. I prefer a ground screw any day of the week.

That being said, if I ever ran into a job with a bunch of old boxes that didn't have tapped holes for ground screws, I'd probably use the clips instead of spending all that time drilling and tapping.

-John

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#36461 - 04/08/04 02:34 PM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
cavo148 Offline
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Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 79
Loc: New Jersey
I actually found one of those in a branch circuit panel the other day. Somebody twisted a few bare grounds together, left one of them longer, and placed it under a grounding clip on the protruding steel tab over the main breaker. Didn't have a camera so I just rolled my eyes 'n fixed it.

Andy

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#36462 - 04/08/04 02:42 PM Re: Grounding clips: How do you attach and do you trust 'em?
mvrandazzo Offline
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Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 105
I've used them once or twice and decided that will never happen again. I always carry a 5/32 drill bit and a 10-32 tap. I can always drill a hole in any box and fasten a ground screw.

Blessings. Mark

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