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#35180 - 03/05/04 12:40 PM Saves time, wiring easy
walrus Offline
Registered: 07/25/02
Posts: 680
Loc: Bangor Me. USA
Saw this somewhere else.

I don't do any homes, what do you think
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#35181 - 03/05/04 01:17 PM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
DougW Offline
Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 1143
Loc: North Chicago, IL
I was ready to blow it off, until I saw the UL listing mentioned.

If it's listed for 110/220, I suppose it would simply be up to the AHJ's.

Kind of intriguing... if these take off, does that mean I memorized box fills calculations for nothing?
#35182 - 03/05/04 01:22 PM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
CRW Offline
Registered: 02/11/01
Posts: 159
Loc: Bethlehem, PA USA
I have mixed feelings. It looks cool, but if you have accessible space in the basement to install this, you could also use regular junction boxes and wirenuts. They say that wirenuts aren't reliable. They're plenty reliable when a professional electrician installs them properly. Maybe it will enable more DIYers to do work in their homes.
#35183 - 03/05/04 01:30 PM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
C-H Offline
Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 1497
Loc: Stockholm, Sweden
I've figured out a way of beating him on time. You would hate the quality of the installations and so would I, but I think it could be sufficiently safe to get the stuff approved. (No, I won't tell...)
#35184 - 03/05/04 02:01 PM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
Philip White Offline
Registered: 08/06/02
Posts: 12
Loc: trenton, tennessee, usa
don't let your kids near it.
#35185 - 03/05/04 02:19 PM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
Jim M Offline
Registered: 08/10/01
Posts: 457
Loc: Chestertown, MD, USA
Do anyone notice the wire is not secured between the sill plate and the boxes?
#35186 - 03/05/04 05:25 PM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
Trumpy Offline

Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8211
Loc: SI,New Zealand
We had a variation of this over here in the late '70's.
We're still taking the darned things out.
They are a good idea, but don't let Mr H/O into it.
They don't tend to like being overloaded either.
Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin
#35187 - 03/06/04 04:50 AM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
winnie Offline
Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 649
Loc: boston, ma
It says 'Safe, U. L . tested, approved, listed and Rated for over 60 lbs. of pull.' but what I would really like to know is what it is UL _listed_ as, and what its current handling capacity is.

Also, I presume that it is considered a junction box and must remain accessible, which means that you couldn't use it in a ceiling that will be finished.

Finally, it seems in concept quite a bit like the European junction boxes with terminal strips built in. Cross ocean discussions of 'wire nuts' are often amusing

#35188 - 03/06/04 07:10 AM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
classicsat Offline
Registered: 11/23/02
Posts: 456
I could have used that twice in my home.
(the other house I am woking on has little opportunity to use one).

Unless they have other configurations I don't think, one can do other than a star/bus config, in which case that switch in the pictures makes no sense (and the dream of enldess lighting configurations is nil), in which cans a regular junction box would be far better.

IMO, there is way to many screws along the front.
#35189 - 03/06/04 07:46 AM Re: Saves time, wiring easy
Ryan_J Offline
Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1374
Loc: West Jordan, Utah, USA
The first thing that came to my mind is providing 6" of free length for the conductos in the box. I am not usre if a "terminal block" would have the same requirement as a typical box. What do you think?
Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
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