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#33496 - 01/22/04 03:30 PM lens cover for shower lights?
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any exceptions for not having the lens cover for a fixture located over a shower ?is this per (nec) or (ahj) rule ?

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#33497 - 01/22/04 03:42 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?
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410.4(A) addresses luminiares in wet and damp locations. The location that you describe is a damp one, and therefore the fixture must be listed as such. The only way (that I'm aware of) to obtain this is with a shower lens.

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#33498 - 01/22/04 04:01 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?
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Ryan, a saleman came to my office today with a fixture...(progress lighting) he stated the fixture is listed for wet locations (no cover required) I have always installed covers over shower lights.

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#33499 - 01/22/04 05:49 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?
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Thats interesting.

I would ask to see the UL information on it before I put one up. Oh, by the way, it would be a good idea to keep some copies of that info on the job and in the truck, because I'm sure your inspector will ask for it.....I would!

Let us know what you find, would you?
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#33500 - 01/22/04 08:51 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Burbank,IL,USA
I looked up a few reccessed light fixtures on line, and all the ones I found were approved for damp areas with out a cover.
Before I found this I was of the opinion that outdoor reccessed lights had to have closed covers. I've changed my mind.
I think the shower could be a wet location if the ceiling/light fixture is low enough to have water splash into it. Then according to 410.4 it would require a closed trim

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#33501 - 01/23/04 12:59 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?
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Registered: 12/22/03
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Loc: Griswold, CT, USA
I would look at the configuration of the shower. Many of the smaller shower stalls will have splashing water directed into any fixture inside the stall. I would require a watertight fixture cover for these conditions of use. If, however, there is no way for water to be directed into the fixture, then a fixture approved for damp locations would be approved.
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#33502 - 01/23/04 02:37 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?
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c'mon guys any shower should have a lense that is water tight. all it would take is one fool tossing water in the air to create an electrifiing experience.

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