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#33496 - 01/22/04 07:30 PM lens cover for shower lights?  
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any exceptions for not having the lens cover for a fixture located over a shower ?is this per (nec) or (ahj) rule ?


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#33497 - 01/22/04 07:42 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?  
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410.4(A) addresses luminiares in wet and damp locations. The location that you describe is a damp one, and therefore the fixture must be listed as such. The only way (that I'm aware of) to obtain this is with a shower lens.

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#33498 - 01/22/04 08:01 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?  
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Ryan, a saleman came to my office today with a fixture...(progress lighting) he stated the fixture is listed for wet locations (no cover required) I have always installed covers over shower lights.


#33499 - 01/22/04 09:49 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?  
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Thats interesting.

I would ask to see the UL information on it before I put one up. Oh, by the way, it would be a good idea to keep some copies of that info on the job and in the truck, because I'm sure your inspector will ask for it.....I would! [Linked Image]

Let us know what you find, would you?


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#33500 - 01/23/04 12:51 AM Re: lens cover for shower lights?  
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I looked up a few reccessed light fixtures on line, and all the ones I found were approved for damp areas with out a cover.
Before I found this I was of the opinion that outdoor reccessed lights had to have closed covers. I've changed my mind.
I think the shower could be a wet location if the ceiling/light fixture is low enough to have water splash into it. Then according to 410.4 it would require a closed trim


#33501 - 01/23/04 04:59 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?  
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I would look at the configuration of the shower. Many of the smaller shower stalls will have splashing water directed into any fixture inside the stall. I would require a watertight fixture cover for these conditions of use. If, however, there is no way for water to be directed into the fixture, then a fixture approved for damp locations would be approved.


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#33502 - 01/23/04 06:37 PM Re: lens cover for shower lights?  
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c'mon guys any shower should have a lense that is water tight. all it would take is one fool tossing water in the air to create an electrifiing experience.



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