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#32922 - 01/08/04 04:05 PM Push in wire connectors?
DougW Offline
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Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 1083
Loc: North Chicago, IL
Saw these in the Ideal products catalog a few years ago. Now I'm seeing them at the Big Orange Box, and in distributor catalogs like Sunstar. Haven't gone out and bought any yet, just played with the package while waiting for some wire to be cut.

Is anybody using these on a regular basis? How are they for space and speed v. regular wirenuts?
How are they if you need to add/remove conductors? Do they have a release point like backwire receptacles?

We're still pretty much regular Buchanan / Ideal wirenut users at our shop - these look faster for initial installs, but if you can't easily modify (remove) them, then...

http://www.idealindustries.com/wt/IdcPushin.nsf

Thanks - happy New Year, BTW!
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#32923 - 01/08/04 04:16 PM Re: Push in wire connectors?
Wirenuttt Offline
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Registered: 11/10/02
Posts: 267
Loc: Massachusetts
Doug;

I sell the WAGO push-in with release brand at our supply house. Electricians who install a lot of recessed lighting love them. They buy them by the bag full. Cheaper than wirenutts in certain application.
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#32924 - 01/08/04 05:43 PM Re: Push in wire connectors?
CRW Offline
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Registered: 02/11/01
Posts: 160
Loc: Bethlehem, PA USA
A couple years ago I used tons of them for changing out ballasts at a huge office building. We used the orange #85's. They were very quick and appeared to make a strong connection, better than a lot of quick connectors like you often see with ballasts or exit signs. I don't remember being able to remove the wire from them after installation, I believe you have to cut it off. It was great for ballast changes, but I wouldn't use them for regular splices where you intend to change or add wiring in the near future.
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#32925 - 01/09/04 04:46 AM Re: Push in wire connectors?
electure Offline


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Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4229
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
This has been a point of disagreement around the Forum for a while.
Use the "search" feature (at the top of this page), and you'll find plenty of opinions.
This one will most likely never reach a consensus status. Some love 'em, some hate 'em....S
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#32926 - 01/09/04 10:58 AM Re: Push in wire connectors?
:andy: Offline
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Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 272
Loc: Germany
you can actually get a solid wire out of a push-in wago by pulling and turning the wire or wago left and right.

a while ago i posted this one http://electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003602.html

new wagos that have an easier release mechanism.


ps. i love 'em

someone should open a poll, wagos - curse or blessing



[This message has been edited by :andy: (edited 01-09-2004).]
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#32927 - 01/09/04 11:23 AM Re: Push in wire connectors?
iwire Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 4343
Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
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someone should open a poll, wagos - curse or blessing


We could start a pole but I think that would be the same as asking which is a better color, Red or Green.

In other words it is just personal choice.

ps. I hate 'em
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#32928 - 01/09/04 11:55 AM Re: Push in wire connectors?
SJT Offline
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Registered: 07/24/02
Posts: 242
Loc: PATCHOGUE, N.Y.
I too like that style connector, but just for Ballast changes. We had used the ones made by 3M. Put the wires in and then you use the Lineman pliers to close them. They were great if you had a lot of Ballasts to do. AT first, I was skeptical too. We had a whole building to do. They wanted to change from the Old heavy Ballasts to the non PCB electronic(much lighter).
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#32929 - 01/10/04 06:55 AM Re: Push in wire connectors?
electure Offline


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Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4229
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
Count me in as hating them ...S
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#32930 - 01/10/04 10:30 AM Re: Push in wire connectors?
ComputerWizKid Offline
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Registered: 09/20/03
Posts: 116
Loc: Connecticut, USA
ah I love electrican debate
Up VS Down
Pretwist VS no pretwist
Wago VS NO Wago
where does it end?
JK have a nice day
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Theres always enough room in the junction box.You just need a bigger hammer
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#32931 - 01/10/04 01:40 PM Re: Push in wire connectors?
u2slow Offline
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Registered: 09/18/03
Posts: 198
Loc: Salt Spring, BC, Canada
On my current jobsite (36 story residential high-rise) we are using Wagos exclusively. Splicing speed is up. They are excellent for changing splices (pull & turn works) - especially when they need to be done live. Works well for us as we pre-rough-in common areas and stairwells for egress lighting which isn't feasible to shutdown.

Also find the conductors are easier to fold into the box when they aren't twisted together.

I see lots of sloppy work with wirenuts. Usually from those who use a battery drill - they get carried away twisting to the point where one of the wires in the splice breaks or slips out.
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