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#32592 - 12/29/03 06:27 PM Recesed lighting on a porch
Joey D Offline
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Loc: Arlington MA U.S.
I have to install recesed lights on an open porch. Do they need to have a enclosed trim like a shower? They are protected from the weather from the roof and design of the porch but still outside.
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#32593 - 12/29/03 07:33 PM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
Bill Addiss Offline
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Joey,

Open Trims should be fine.

Bill
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#32594 - 12/30/03 10:36 AM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
russ m Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Burbank,IL,USA
The trims would have to be suitable/listed for a damp location

Russ
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#32595 - 12/30/03 02:36 PM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
Joey D Offline
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The only trims listed for damp location would be similar to a shower trim. Then the limit of lamp wattage comes to issue.
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#32596 - 12/30/03 03:54 PM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
golf junkie Offline
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Registered: 04/22/01
Posts: 511
Loc: York, NE
I agree with Bill. Open trims are OK for this application. If you are unsure just call your AHJ and ask.

GJ
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#32597 - 12/30/03 04:38 PM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
Electricmanscott Offline
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Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1478
Loc: Holden, MA USA
You are confusing wet and damp locations. Shower type trims are for shower type environments which are considered wet locations. Open baffle trims are ok for damp locations which the underside of a porch roof would be. This is perfectly acceptable as far as the NEC goes.
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#32598 - 12/31/03 09:52 AM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
harold endean Offline
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Registered: 02/16/02
Posts: 2248
Loc: Boonton, NJ
Damp or wet location aside, I would think that you would want to close off the recess light to help keep the bugs out. If the trim/housing was open, bees, etc. will get up through the housing and build nests in side the eaves.
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#32599 - 12/31/03 11:08 AM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
russ m Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 165
Loc: Burbank,IL,USA
Seems that if housings are listed for damp location, the trims wouldn't matter after all.

This is off the Halo site, and a typical can.
Be safe and check the listing of the fixture housing.


Installation Features
7 1/2" height allows use in 2x8 construction.
Housing adjusts for ceilings up to 1 1/2" thick.
Shipping insert protects socket from paint overspray.
Listings
UL Damp Location
UL Feed Through
CSA Certified
IP Rated


[This message has been edited by russ m (edited 12-31-2003).]
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#32600 - 01/02/04 04:16 AM Re: Recesed lighting on a porch
ken m Offline
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Registered: 08/14/01
Posts: 61
Loc: south carolina
progress makes an open shower trim. P8072WL-28 metal flange which utilizes a par 30 50w long neck type spotlight. trim has a seal in the top.
in one local county i work in, one of the ahj's would not accept the app (listed) while another (in the same county)would accept it. the latter of the ahj's passed because of warning lable stating type and size of lamp required. go figure
ken m
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