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#32312 - 12/20/03 10:41 AM Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
mbhydro Offline
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Registered: 02/21/03
Posts: 344
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
I picked this link up off of a pro HVAC site simular to this one, and was wondering how you try to prevent this type of accident from happening?

My thoughts go out to the family.
http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=42154&pagenumber=1

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#32313 - 12/20/03 10:50 AM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
golf junkie Offline
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Registered: 04/22/01
Posts: 511
Loc: York, NE
To prevent.......don't work equipment live.

For faster response.....don't work alone.

GJ

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#32314 - 12/20/03 11:11 AM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
Electric Eagle Offline
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Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 928
Loc: Alpharetta, GA
They didn't give enough information to prove the guy was electrocuted. At 60 years old, he might've just had a heart attack. It still sucks.

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#32315 - 12/20/03 04:26 PM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
Attic Rat Offline
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Registered: 12/14/03
Posts: 530
Loc: Bergen Co.,N.J. USA
..That's truly awful...what a way to go...I really feel bad for his family,esp. so close to Christmas and all.. Poor guy,..if only he had someone there with him...he may've been saved,and if not..at least spared the indignity of lying up there for 2 days...why would his shop-steward let a 60 yr old guy go up in a ceiling ALONE for???? smells like$$$$$$$ to me, they did'nt want to pay another guy...that sux,..in my opinion!!!
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#32316 - 12/20/03 09:17 PM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
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Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 1685
Loc: New York City
Here is the text from the December 19 Newsday (Long Island) story. My condolences to the family. I can't believe that these d****** stooges from Macy*s didn't have the presence of mind to FIND OUT what happened to one of their own when his car was sitting in the parking lot and he never clocked out. .

Body in Store Over 2 Days
Macy’s Worker Found In Ceiling Apparently Electrocuted

By Sumathi Reddy
Staff Writer

December 18, 2003, 9:32 PM EST

Theresa Pignatelli didn't think it too unusual when her longtime companion didn't return to their Copiague home Monday night.

That's the kind of tireless worker George Poldrugovaz, 60, was, she said Thursday. An electrician for Macy's for nearly 20 years, Poldrugovaz worked night shifts and weekends, rarely taking a day off.

But Tuesday night, Pignatelli thought Poldrugovaz's absence was a little unusual, and by Wednesday morning she was becoming anxious when she got a call from the Macy's store in Douglaston, Queens: They didn't know where he was.

That evening, Pignatelli learned from Macy's that Poldrugovaz's body was found in the store's ceiling. Police said Poldrugovaz, last seen Monday morning, appeared to have been electrocuted, his dead body there for more than two days.

A Macy's official wouldn't comment on the incident Thursday except to say it was under investigation and they are "deeply saddened" and wanted to express their "sincere sympathies to the family."

Pignatelli and her son, Ralph Stanzione, said they are livid that store employees didn't detect Poldrugovaz's absence earlier. "The way he died," Pignatelli said, crying. "The way he died. That store. They don't have help. You can't have one person doing everything."

Stanzione of Lindenhurst said that after his mother was alerted that Poldrugovaz was missing, he started calling local police departments and yelling at store officials. "I told them, 'I'm gonna come in myself' ... " he recalled. "You're in the store. You're not looking in the borough of Brooklyn. You're looking in a store."

Stanzione and Pignatelli questioned why store employees didn't suspect something was wrong after he hadn't punched out and his car was in the parking lot.

"To be left in the ceiling in the foyer like that in the lobby and not to even do the simplest thing to retrace the steps, it's disrespectful," Stanzione said. "I'm not happy with that whole situation," he added. "It's a tragedy, what happened."

Friends and family said Poldrugovaz grew up in Brooklyn, studied engineering at a local college and served in the Army for several years.

They described him as a simple and quiet man, tall and skinny, who liked to take his boat out and go fishing.

Poldrugovaz worked at different Macy's stores for about 20 years and hoped to retire next year, Pignatelli said.

"We wanted to enjoy" retirement, Pignatelli said. "We wanted to enjoy it instead of having him get up early every day in the morning and come home late at night and he's in all that traffic ... "

"He never even took a day off," she said. "He was so good."

Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.

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#32317 - 12/20/03 09:19 PM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
SvenNYC Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 1685
Loc: New York City
Here is the December 18 story from the same paper:

Electrician's Body Found at Macy's

Wil Cruz

December 18, 2003

Shoppers at a Queens Macy's went about their holiday business for two days this week unaware that an electrician lay dead in the store's ceiling, police said yesterday.

George Poldrugovaz, 60, of Copiague, was last seen at the Douglaston Macy's at 8 a.m. Monday, police said. Poldrugovaz, who was an electrician for Macy's, apparently was electrocuted, police said. His body was found yesterday.

"Nobody thought he was missing," a police source said, "because they thought he might have been working at another store."

Police said fellow employees became suspicious when Poldrugovaz had not shown up at any of the locations where he normally works. Workers also had noticed Poldrugovaz's car outside the store at 242-02 61st Ave. with the hatch open.

Macy's officials could not be reached for comment last night.

Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.

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#32318 - 12/21/03 03:13 AM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
sparky Offline
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Registered: 10/18/00
Posts: 5545
 Quote:
"He was so good."


and the good die young.....

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#32319 - 12/21/03 09:11 AM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
mbhydro Offline
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Registered: 02/21/03
Posts: 344
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
Sven thanks for the follow up on the story.

But I wonder what can be done to prevent somebody from going missing on a job site due to an injury.

In our building security checks on all the electricial and mechanical rooms as part of their rounds. They have to swipe a barcode at the far end of the area to prove that they did check the room.

Any temporary trades get an key card id badge and if not turned in at the end of the day somebody goes looking to see if they are still in their assigned area.

In new construction such as the new arena they are building in Winnipeg I am not sure what could be done to track everybodys work location short of a small GPS on your tool belt.

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#32320 - 12/21/03 11:28 AM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
sparky Offline
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Registered: 10/18/00
Posts: 5545
perhaps implanted brain chips mbhydro ??

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#32321 - 12/21/03 11:31 PM Re: Electrician found dead after two days in ceiling
jlhmaint Offline
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Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 208
Loc: Fredericktown, OH, U.S.A
Very sorry to hear this.

In every factory i have ever worked in the rule was your never working late or weekends unless you have another guy in the shop and you know what each other is doing and check on each other regularly by radio or in person.

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