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#3174 - 08/09/01 08:20 PM Permit? What permit?  
Redsy  Offline
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Okay, at what point do you decide to pull a permit?
If someone wants a ceiling fan installed, and you charge $145.00, do you then add $75.00 for permit&inspection?
How about-
Installing a single new outdoor receptacle, or 6 recessed incandescents in a basement?
The reason I'm asking is that Consumer Reports magazine had a feature on the safety of residential electrical systems. It mentioned that, although permitting helps a municipality ensure safe installations, many customers decline them to save time & money.
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#3175 - 08/09/01 08:53 PM Re: Permit? What permit?  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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Redsy,

I think that's mostly true. I see many people that do not want to spend the money for the permit or inspection fee. Here that would amount to over $100. There's not much that you can do about it.

Bill


#3176 - 08/09/01 11:23 PM Re: Permit? What permit?  
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If you look at it, a permit is not much different than a tax. You know how people hate to pay taxes. I don't deal with it much because people in the commercial end of the trade are used to paying for permits, ect. I would just be honest with your customers, and let them make the choice.


#3177 - 08/10/01 04:43 AM Re: Permit? What permit?  
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Beuracracy is a double edged sword. I struggle with the same Q too. Our permits are dirt cheap, i can't believe the state even makes gas $$ out of it, but they are so shorthanded i may not get inspected even if i do pull a permit.


#3178 - 08/10/01 08:43 AM Re: Permit? What permit?  
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In the area where I live an electrical permit is required for just about all electrical work. If caught without one, a fine and suspended electrical license might result.


#3179 - 08/10/01 09:00 AM Re: Permit? What permit?  
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Redsy,

I have stuggled with this also. I mostly agree with you about the permit cost sometimes being excessive compared to the price of the job. However, on larger jobs I do not give the customer the option of declining a permit. After all it is my license, without it I can make no money. i am sure the insurance people would have something to say also.


#3180 - 08/10/01 06:22 PM Re: Permit? What permit?  
sparky  Offline
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Isn't there a liability issue do or don't ?


#3181 - 08/11/01 01:50 PM Re: Permit? What permit?  
Redsy  Offline
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Originally posted by Jim M:
Redsy,

I have stuggled with this also. I mostly agree with you about the permit cost sometimes being excessive compared to the price of the job. However, on larger jobs I do not give the customer the option of declining a permit. After all it is my license, without it I can make no money. i am sure the insurance people would have something to say also.

I work similarly. Most of our localities require permits for even installing one receptacle. It is a risk to not obtain permits for any job, but realistically, you wouldn't get any residential work if you insist on a permit for every little thing. Service upgrades, pool & spa wiring, etc. are a different story.


#3182 - 08/14/01 02:47 PM Re: Permit? What permit?  
ken m  Offline
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in my area of south carolina a permit is not required for anything under $2500 unless it's new construction or a meter/service change out. the smaller cities are worried more about a business licenses's than permits and in the general area there are 6 towns that require from $85 to $150 each and thats for the first $2000 bid price.
ken m



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