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#31147 - 11/11/03 06:22 PM sub panel in seperate structure
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im installing a 100 amp sub in poll barn ,im using PVC and pulling wires .. do i need to pull a ground wire with my feeder conductors ,there will be 2 wires and a nuetral in pipe ,i know i have to drive an additional ground rod at the other building

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#31148 - 11/11/03 06:31 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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250.32 allows you to use the grounded conductor of the feeder circuit to attach to the grounding electrode of the seperate structure, if you do not pull an equipment grounding conductor.
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#31149 - 11/11/03 06:32 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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Will there be any other conductive paths to the barn? (ie phone line or metalic water pipe etc...)

If so yes, and you would isolate the neutral from the EGC and the ground rod (GEC)connections.

Even if you are not going to have any other conductive paths right now, it is still the best way to do this. (plan for the future)

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#31150 - 11/11/03 06:36 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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I should have also pointed to 250.32 as Ryan did.

Specificaly 250.32(B)

Roger

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#31151 - 11/11/03 06:39 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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so i should add the EGC
im running 1/0 copper what size should the EGC be ??

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#31152 - 11/11/03 06:41 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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did i say thank you for the fast reply ??

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#31153 - 11/11/03 06:45 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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Your welcome.

If you decide to use an equipment ground, you cannot use the nuetral for attachment to the grounding electrode.

If you do not pull an equipment ground you may use the nuetral for attachment to the grounding elctrode.

Dealer's choice!
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#31154 - 11/11/03 06:48 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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I'm sorry i missed half of your question. REmember that EGC's are driven by the size of the breaker, not the size of the conductor. 250.122 tells me that #8 is fine.
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#31155 - 11/11/03 06:51 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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thanks guys

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#31156 - 11/11/03 07:03 PM Re: sub panel in seperate structure
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SCS, Welcome to the forum.

I personaly would install the EGC.

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