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#28795 - 08/31/03 04:50 AM Inspections & Permits
pauluk Offline

Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
I thought it might be interesting to build up a picture of just how widespread the permit & inspection system has been in the past compared to today.

So, if your jurisdiction has inspections for new wiring and/or for modifications and extensions to existing systems, when were those requirements introduced?

If there has been a clear distinction between, say, permits required for electricians doing work vs. no inspections for a homeowner working on his own property, let's hear about that too.

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#28796 - 08/31/03 05:09 AM Re: Inspections & Permits
Ron Offline

Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 577
Loc: White Plains, NY
In Rockland County, NY, permits and inspections are required for just about everything (even small branch circuit changes).
A homeowner must pass a written exam before he can do electrical work on his own home. The homeowner must then go through the same rough and final inspection as an electrician would.

#28797 - 08/31/03 05:10 AM Re: Inspections & Permits
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
As far back as I can remember (I started in '70), permits have been required here for any new wiring on any new or existing structure, whether the work was performed by a contractor or a homeowner.
The only changes are that the number of jurisdictions have increased. (I believe we now have a gross-144 of them here in So CA.)

#28798 - 08/31/03 08:40 AM Re: Inspections & Permits
Roger Offline

Registered: 05/18/02
Posts: 1779
Loc: N.C.
Paul, Asheville is the same as Ron's area.

Like Electure I started in the 70's and all the areas of the South East I have worked in have had permiting and inspections.

I have even worked in areas (small comunities) that contracted other cities or counties inspectors due to the fact they didn't have their own.

This was agravating because all inspections were usually done on one day a week, if you were ready on Wednesday and the inspector came on Tuesdays the job halted for that period of time, unless someone paid for an after hour visit.


#28799 - 09/01/03 08:07 AM Re: Inspections & Permits
HotLine1 Offline


Registered: 04/03/02
Posts: 6804
Loc: Brick, NJ USA
Here in NJ, permits are required for everything except minor repairs, as defined by the State Uniform Construction Code (5:23)

Homeowners of single family residences that they live in can do their own electrical work IF they are qualified, and obtain a permit.

"Qualification" is determined by the prerson doing the plan review/permit approval. We have no "test" for homeowners, and if they seem like they have an idea of what they propose to do, they get a permit. They are subject to inspections as are EC's.


#28800 - 09/01/03 11:15 AM Re: Inspections & Permits
George Offline

Registered: 02/23/02
Posts: 380
Can we expand this a bit.

For renters. Do you require something showing consent to do the work from the owner?

For contractors. Do you require something showing consent to do the work from the property owner?

#28801 - 09/02/03 01:12 PM Re: Inspections & Permits
pauluk Offline

Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7693
Loc: Norfolk, England
Good question George.

I can only remember working on one property where the people I dealt with were the renters rather than the owners. They told me that they'd been given the blessing of the owners to carry out the work they wanted, but I have to admit that I never checked up any further.

#28802 - 09/02/03 02:19 PM Re: Inspections & Permits
Tom Offline

Registered: 01/01/01
Posts: 1069
Loc: Shinnston, WV USA
Here in the Mountain State, it is really confusing.

Many towns & cities require a permit. They don't necessarily do an electrical inspection, you may have to hire an inspector for that, but only for the service entrance.

The county will usually require a permit to be pulled if the value of the work exceeds $1000. Amazing how much gets done for $999 . But, even if you pull a permit, you may not get an instpection, especially if it is a service for a mobile home.

In some unincorporated areas of the state that are served by another power company, no permit is needed and no inspection is required for service.

Confused? I am.
Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.

#28803 - 09/02/03 03:01 PM Re: Inspections & Permits
iwire Offline

Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 4343
Loc: North Attleboro, MA USA
Here in MA at least since the early 80s and I am sure much longer than that, all electric work requires permits and inspections.

To pull a permit you must have a license and liability insurance (I do not recall how much)

The owner of the property can sign a wavier for you if you do not have insurance, but I always wondered how that conversation would go.

"Mr Homeowner even though I make my living charging for my work I chose not to carry insurance, so can you sign this waiver that says you know I have no way to pay for your house if it burns down. Hey why are you running away?"

A homeowner can pull a permit for the single occupancy home they live in, and is subject to inspections. I have heard of inspectors trying to give on the spot tests to homeowners looking for permits, I believe they are making their own rules at this point though.

There is also yearly maintenance permits that can be applied for if you do a lot of work for the same location, but as the name implies it is for repairs, not new installations.

Permit fees vary widely, by the service amps, by the device, by a percentage of job cost etc. each area makes their own rules here.

One more thing is many small towns have part time inspectors, one or two days a week, as Roger mentioned, the GCs go nuts but it is not my problem.

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

#28804 - 09/03/03 02:01 AM Re: Inspections & Permits
Rob528 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/03
Posts: 4
Loc: Tennessee
Hi, Here in Tennessee the home owner can pull his own permit and do is own work. Some county's have no inspection at all for anything.


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