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#24206 - 04/07/03 02:16 PM Valve Type Lightning Arresters
ThinkGood Offline
Registered: 08/07/02
Posts: 1081
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
I have a GE model 9L15C "Valve Type Secondary Lightning Arrester" as pictured here:

It has two black conductors (14AWG) and one white (14AWG). As per the notice printed on the unit itself, the white conductor is connected to ground and the two black conductors are connected to a separate breaker each. The breakers are connected via a handle so that if one trips, the other does also.

The only information I can find on the GE website is for "GE Tranquell Surge Arrestors" which appear similar:

Is anybody familiar with these? I'm a bit confused in that:

1. It connects to breakers in such a way as to indicate the unit itself is being protected--yet it is supposed to be a lightning arrestor. (It's not connecting between the line side and load side, but exclusively on the load side.)

2. Apparently, there is no way to test the unit, so how to know if it still works

3. If it uses 14AWG conductors, should it not be on a 15A breaker rather than 20A?
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#24207 - 04/07/03 03:21 PM Re: Valve Type Lightning Arresters
pauluk Offline
Registered: 08/11/01
Posts: 7520
Loc: Norfolk, England
I'm not familiar with this particular model, but it sounds as though it might be a double gas-discharge tube type arrester. We used to have similar protective devices on overhead telephone lines.

Being connected on the load side of the C/B results in the breaker providing protection if the tube shorts out, but it will still shunt lightning discharges to ground because the surge of current is of very short duration -- The tube will fire and conduct the energy to ground long before a normal C/B has time to respond and trip.
#24208 - 04/07/03 04:03 PM Re: Valve Type Lightning Arresters
wolfdog Offline
Registered: 10/24/01
Posts: 135
Loc: Dallas,TX
I have a suge suppressor,similar in design, made by Panamax installed on my house.
It connects to a two pole breaker and ground.
Panamax provides two leds to indicate the device is working properly and gave no requirement for breaker size in the installation instructions.
I think the assumption is made that if the device works as intended, the time period will be faster than the breaker would react anyway.

[This message has been edited by wolfdog (edited 04-07-2003).]

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