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#2215 - 06/28/01 07:29 AM Still another do you..
Redsy Offline
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After umpteen years of discarding the small ivory wire-nuts that come with many fixtures because they have no spring, and then struggling with an orange-sized wire-nut to connect a single #14 solid conductor to the small 16-18 gauge fixture wires(I can't seem to get a good bite without the wire-nut free-wheeling), I finally tried using the small ivoy wire-nut supplied and found them to work well. Does anyone else use them?
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#2216 - 06/28/01 12:01 PM Re: Still another do you..
sparky Offline
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hmmmmm, maybe i should?
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#2217 - 06/28/01 12:10 PM Re: Still another do you..
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Try this sometime. Strip your solid wire so that about 4-5" of copper is showing. Then twist the smaller wire with your solid, and cut off the extra left on the solid. It seems to me that it is the insulation that makes the wire so stiff, and difficult to make a joint. Then maybe you won't have the problem of the wire nut freewheeling.
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#2218 - 06/28/01 02:34 PM Re: Still another do you..
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If an orange freewheels, then I use the next smaller size, the little blue ones. I find something fundamentally wrong with a wirenut with no spring, and I toss them too.

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#2219 - 06/28/01 03:59 PM Re: Still another do you..
Tom Offline
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Generally speaking, those wirenuts that come with the fixtures appear to be the cheapest ones ever made.

Most of the time, I find a Buchannon B1 seems to fit even those small fixture wires. I've got enough junk on my truck without adding those little blue ones. Someday I'll tell you a short story about cleaning out my truck.

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#2220 - 06/28/01 06:21 PM Re: Still another do you..
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Originally posted by Redsy:
After umpteen years of discarding the small ivory wire-nuts that come with many fixtures because they have no spring, and then struggling with an orange-sized wire-nut to connect a single #14 solid conductor to the small 16-18 gauge fixture wires(I can't seem to get a good bite without the wire-nut free-wheeling), I finally tried using the small ivoy wire-nut supplied and found them to work well. Does anyone else use them?
I also discarded the small ivory wire nuts (that come with fixtures). Yet I tried to use one just a week ago, and it did not secure the wire (conductors) the way I thought it would. So............ I will stick to the standard every day "use" wire nuts.



[This message has been edited by Foca Se (edited 06-28-2001).]
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#2221 - 06/29/01 10:51 AM Re: Still another do you..
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I toss those if they are the garbage ones, I can usually get a yellow one on there, which I always carry in my pouch.

I am seeing that some companies are including better wire nuts with their stuff. I just put up a Hunter ceiling fan in my house and it came with three Buchanan yellow wire nuts.
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#2222 - 06/29/01 03:31 PM Re: Still another do you..
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Yup, I toss them too. Ive also found that if you extend the stranded wire approx 1/8inch past the solid and use the nut like you normally would that it works well and takes a good tight bite.
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#2223 - 06/29/01 07:25 PM Re: Still another do you..
Bill Addiss Offline
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You could save them for low voltage stuff too.

Bill
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#2224 - 07/07/01 08:59 AM Re: Still another do you..
Mike Wescoatt Offline
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Alright... Here I go sounding like a Wago salesman. I use the Wago 224-101 lighting connector and get an assured connection every time. I place them at rough in and can safely connect the insturment even if the power is on since all metallic pieces are insulated.

Before this I used to use orange or blue nuts, throwing away the springless nuts.
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