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#216440 - 12/18/15 11:14 AM lle test
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ok next month im looking at taking my LLE test. im in Tennessee and contacted mt exam center for info on books and they sent me a list of 6 books do i need all of them for the test? its open book 40 questions? any help or advise will be greatly appreciated!

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#216441 - 12/18/15 11:29 AM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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The cynic in me says: If you know your stuff, you won't NEED any of the books laugh

That's just a list of the books they allow in the exam room. Look closer, and the books greatly duplicate each other.

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#216445 - 12/18/15 12:16 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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I just don't want to miss anything I know I know how to do the work but you never stop learning something new.

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#216447 - 12/18/15 04:03 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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They are telling you that all of the answers on the test are in those 6 books.You should at least be familiar with them all.
I think the reason the do "open book" is because these things change so often that you need to be able to find the latest rules in the book.
I would tend to agree with Reno though. If you really know your stuff, you should be able to get a passing grade with a book or two that have the tables that you may not need to memorize 100%.
We use 310.16 all the time but I know you might get me with some value I don't use that often and that is the kind of thing test writers like to throw at you.
They want you to be able to look things up and interpret all of the factors you need to include.
An example is the 1hp 120v motor. What is the minimum size copper wire and the max breaker? You need at least 3 tables to get that answer.
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#216448 - 12/18/15 06:52 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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OK I don't have a problem buying the books just didn't know if it would be necessary to have all them. I have been out of this line of work for about 8 years now. My dad had a Electric business and has passed and now I think I'm ready to get back in the business. I just have a lot to learn about everything. I already have one of his contractors that after I get my license and insurance he said he'd give me some home to wire! Getting my ducks in a row!!!

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#216449 - 12/18/15 09:17 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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The main reason is the tests are usually written for a certain code cycle and they usually have a number of questions that reflect the changes. The people influencing the test sell the books. (NFPA et al)
When I did my first round of inspector tests, I was studying the 93, then I found out IAEI was still testing on the 90. I had to go, "unlearn" some things.
I still ended passing the 2A, 2B and 2C without a lot of trouble.
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#216450 - 12/18/15 10:00 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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I don't think we have to take test for the inspectors here in tn I think I just have to pass the one test and I have the LLE license

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#216451 - 12/18/15 11:56 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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Florida got tough on all sorts of licenses after Hurricane Andrew. Inspectors are licensed just like the contractors, certification, CEUs and such.
We also have a unified building code with no local amendments.
It does make it a little easier on the contractors who span several AHJs. They may have different procedures and you may see some strange interpretations but the code will be the same.
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#216452 - 12/19/15 09:12 AM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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You can count on the test having a few questions not covered by the NEC.

Favorites include the height of fire alarm strobes, clearances from power lines, a voltage drop calculation, and something about exit sign or smoke detector placement. If the license will allow you to conduct business, expect a question about liens and a question about quitting an incomplete job.

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#216456 - 12/19/15 04:22 PM Re: lle test [Re: mkoontz88]
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They let us take 6 books into the exam for the PE license too.

You should know the information well enough to either not need the books...or know exactly where the information is in them.

I was told that if I ever found myself looking at the table of contents or the index; I should just admit to myself that I was wasting my time and should have been more familiar with the material.
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