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#210914 - 08/21/13 06:44 PM Reduced voltage motor starter
djelectric Offline
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Registered: 09/17/05
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Hi, I have a reduced voltage motor starter with the contacts submersed in oil.
I am trying to find oil to add/change, any ideas what oil might be in the starter ? transformer oil ?
Supply house said the oil is obsolete but they can get it in 4 oz containers at $60 bucks each, that will be very expensive
seeing I need 5 gallons.
This is an old Cutler Hammer starter you pull the arm forward to start the motor and when at speed push arm back to run.

Thanks for any help
Dave
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#210915 - 08/21/13 07:42 PM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: djelectric]
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I would contact CH at there local office for tech support
They are usually helpful
I doubt the product you posted is the only option
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#210922 - 08/23/13 03:34 PM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: djelectric]
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Take care! You don't say how old it is, but that style of starter could be very old. Early transformer oils are carciogenic. That's why those types are obsolete.

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#210927 - 08/23/13 09:02 PM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: geoff in UK]
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You may want to look at replacement cost to include oil that will need to be tested for carcinogens.
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#210938 - 08/26/13 01:21 PM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: djelectric]
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There's a good chance that the 'oil' is actually PCB...that price of $15 per ounce sounds suspiciously like it's for PCB fluid.
You might not be able to top it off...or even totally replace the starter without a LOT of regulatory paperwork and expense.
I agree with the others and suggest that you determine exactly what you're getting into before you get in too deep.
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#210939 - 08/26/13 07:55 PM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: djelectric]
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The last PC. Job I had (15+ yrs ago) the regs & paper trail was enormous
It was 6 mat mount old transformers w/ PCB oil
About $35k in cleanup & disposal costs

As others said, be careful
You may be able to find a rudementry PCB test kit on the web, but again... Careful !!
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#210940 - 08/27/13 07:51 AM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: djelectric]
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I just checked a job estimate for some demolition items.

It's $50k to take out (4)300kVA transformers, (2)750kVA transformers, (5) Switchgear lineups and a whole lot of other stuff.

It's a separate $4,500 just to get rid of the (1)750kVA PCB transformer.

Even I didn't realize how nutty the PCB costs have gotten.
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#210945 - 08/27/13 12:50 PM Re: Reduced voltage motor starter [Re: djelectric]
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Just an FYI...make sure you keep all the 'paper', or make copies for yourself, and provide the originals to the owner.

EPA/DEP issues after the fact can be very $$$$$$$$
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