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#208669 - 02/05/13 09:08 AM Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle
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#208670 - 02/05/13 09:25 AM Re: Saw this on Mile Holt's Facebook Page [Re: dougwells]
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Holy Grail Batman!
The AFCI device.
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#208671 - 02/05/13 10:16 AM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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Looks to be right around $40.00, so no surprise there. Hopefully a little less at actual wholesale from the local supply house, but I'm guessing not by much.

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#208672 - 02/05/13 11:26 AM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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Interesting, it finally seems to be here. I just sent them an email inquiring if any samples are available for AHJs and Instructors.

Thanks for the news and the link.
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#208674 - 02/05/13 02:33 PM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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You mean I don't have to turn a neat panel into a spaghetti factory anymore Wahoo!!

Only problem I could see with this is it would technically leave the home run still vulnerable.


Edited by Theelectrikid (02/05/13 02:37 PM)
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#208676 - 02/05/13 04:08 PM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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210.12(A) ex1 covers that

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Exception No. 1: If RMC, IMC, EMT, Type MC, or steel
armored Type AC cables meeting the requirements of
250.118 and metal outlet and junction boxes are installed
for the portion of the branch circuit between the branchcircuit
overcurrent device and the first outlet, it shall be
permitted to install an outlet branch-circuit type AFCI at
the first outlet to provide protection for the remaining portion
of the branch circuit.
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#208677 - 02/05/13 04:37 PM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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Backdoor conformance with 210.12 (A) ex 1 would be to install one of these Leviton devices in a 4Sq adjacent to the panel, with a compliant wiring method from the panel to the 4Sq. Now, compare the $$$ of the 'device' and an AFCI CB.
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#208680 - 02/05/13 06:07 PM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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I think it only makes sense for rehab or renovation in a house that has a pre AFCI style panel that you don't want to replace. (Zinsco or something)
I am surprised these are not dead front. If you are just putting in a few circuits that need to be AFCI, this makes a lot of sense. I imagine you could get 2 in a deep 4x4 or 4 11/16 box. That might be enough for a small addition or a basement remodel.
Prior to this you were running a feeder to a new style sub panel that you could buy AFCI breakers for.
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#208693 - 02/06/13 02:17 PM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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I find it sort of odd that it's "commercial grade", and the requirements for both AFCI and TR are limited to residential use.

Doesn't say much for their residential grade devices, does it smile
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#208694 - 02/06/13 06:11 PM Re: Saw this on Mike Holt's Facebook AFCI Receptacle [Re: dougwells]
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electure...

Commercial Grade = Pricing/ Marketing 'Plateau.'

The heftier quality of componentry is simply consequential to that 'positioning.'

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