ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#203448 - 09/29/11 07:52 PM Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here:
Tesla Offline
Member
Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 1273
Loc: Sacramento, CA
_________________________
Tesla
Top
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
#203474 - 10/02/11 02:52 PM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
mikethebull Offline
Member
Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 100
Loc: Rhode Island
Some people at my facility stole 2 -1 .5 thick by 20 foot long copper weld bars for a sub-ard weld machine. about a year ago they took some 2/0 welding lead fine strand.
Top
#203477 - 10/02/11 04:40 PM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
KJay Offline
Member
Registered: 11/27/07
Posts: 763
Loc: MA, USA
Originally Posted By Tesla
Looks like someone needs to install CCTV.



I would say they do.

Pan, Tilt, Zoom..... Fire at will!! cool
Top
#203607 - 10/12/11 07:37 PM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
mikethebull Offline
Member
Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 100
Loc: Rhode Island
We do have cameras so "the thiefs" snuck it past "eagle-eye" security.And took 6- 5 gallons of stripped copper wire. Economy is awesome!!
Top
#203615 - 10/13/11 07:32 AM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
ghost307 Offline
Member
Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 899
Loc: Chicago Illinois USA
I know of 1 installation where they responded to thefts and vandalism by installing CCTV. They figured that way they would save money by reducing the thefts.
After about a year they saw no thefts, so they figured that they could save even more money...by turning off the lights that the CCTV was using to see the site.

Some people are so dumb that the only thing they're good for is being a source of comic relief in a stressful world.

smile
Top
#203622 - 10/13/11 11:36 AM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
Tesla Offline
Member
Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 1273
Loc: Sacramento, CA
ghost...

Many of the newer CCTVs use infra-red vision or ambient light like a night scope.

Once the word gets out that cameras are present most thieves move to un-watched targets.

------

Digital wireless TV cameras ruined the criminal enterprise of one dude in NY. He routinely stole building materials from unattended job sites: specifically trimmed, un-cut timber poles.

Being a product of nature he was able to fence them without discount.

He was caught red-handed -- lost all of his equipment used in the crime -- and was given 17 years to think it over + 3 hots and a cot.

His MO ran back twenty years!

In the case at hand, he stole $40,000 worth of poles!

So, no wonder the security business is exploding.
_________________________
Tesla
Top
#203625 - 10/13/11 11:55 AM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
ghost307 Offline
Member
Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 899
Loc: Chicago Illinois USA
So when he finishes his 17 year sentence for the $40k in poles he will have made just under $2,400 per year.

Apparently crime does pay...it just doesn't pay very well.
Top
#203626 - 10/13/11 11:55 AM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
gfretwell Offline


Member
Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9039
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
We get so many pictures of thieves on the TV news, it appears they think nobody is ever watching. In real life the cameras have to be very good to actually get an identifiable picture.

I really have to wonder how people "fence" some of the things that get stolen. The cops are trying to get tighter here. One rule that might make a difference is there is no more "cash" at the time of sale. They have to mail you a check. This record gets tied to a video of the seller and pictures of the items being sold.
I think it is a lot easier to catch the guys selling the scrap than it is to catch them stealing it. Once you close up the sale end, the theft end doesn't make much sense.
_________________________
Greg Fretwell
Top
#203627 - 10/13/11 01:11 PM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
HotLine1 Offline


Member
Registered: 04/03/02
Posts: 6776
Loc: Brick, NJ USA
One of the local scrap yards is requiring photo ID, and not taking any 'walk-in' trade with shopping carts.

Another is paying only by check, and requires photo ID and lic. plate of vehicle.

_________________________
John
Top
#203632 - 10/13/11 07:36 PM Re: Copper prices are backing off a bit -- look here: [Re: Tesla]
gfretwell Offline


Member
Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9039
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
They have been requiring photo ID and a thumb print here for a long time.
I think the real problem might be "bundlers' Who sanitize the scrap by, cutting it up to disguise the origin, cleaning it, sorting it and crushing it and then turn it in to a bigger processor in bulk.
_________________________
Greg Fretwell
Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Member Spotlight
Member Since: 11/17/00
Posts: 2232
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box


Who's Online
0 registered (), 58 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
 
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
 
Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 49
HotLine1 43
gfretwell 18
Ruben Rocha 12
Trumpy 9
 
Newest Members
Freecrowder, clee512, Jdscott2005, FAIZAN, Regitest2

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals