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#20272 - 01/12/03 02:27 PM Plastic or Steel?
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I was wondering what type of wall box most of the people on this board like to use. I still would rather use steel.

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#20273 - 01/12/03 02:34 PM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Registered: 10/14/02
Posts: 211
Loc: Massachusetts
I use plastic up to a 3 gang, 4 gang and over I go to metal. For basic residiential it is easier to use a plastic nail on as you don't have to bond it and it attaches to a stud a little quicker.

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#20274 - 01/12/03 05:03 PM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Registered: 02/16/02
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In NJ here for the res. type jobs. I see mostly plastic. For the commercial/ind. jobs, metal. I my self would use plastic, but I always used metal for light fixtures.

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#20275 - 01/13/03 04:48 AM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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a mix, mainly plastic but metal for area's that plastic won't cut it

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#20276 - 01/13/03 08:59 AM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Registered: 01/02/03
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bfdpoc221...i use both types. but it depends on the framing.(wood or metal studs)new work res./and all metal in comm. there is an advance in using plastic. (1) the cost per box,(2) no need to ground the box.

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#20277 - 01/13/03 09:54 AM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Registered: 08/19/02
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Here in New York City it seems you're required to use metal boxes by default, since use of armored cable is apparently a code requirement.

Although I've seen the blue plastic boxes for sale at the Home Depot...what they're used in I don't know. Everything I've seen/dealt with has always been metal (which I prefer since they're much sturdier - plastic always can crack or the screwhole strip out if you over-tighten).

You cannot use armored cable with plastic boxes, only NM, right?

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#20278 - 01/13/03 11:59 AM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Registered: 03/13/02
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With the adoption of the NEC 1996 and the NYC ammendments as of January 2003, I do not see any general restrictions to using NM in non-commercial dwellings in NYC.
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#20279 - 01/13/03 12:44 PM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Plastic for resi, when we do it.
Metal on commercial, with MC cable.
IMHO, NMC does not belong in comm buildings.
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#20280 - 01/13/03 06:11 PM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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bfdpoc221, We use metal 4" sq deeps with plaster rings and mounted with Caddy H3s for almost everything.

I am with ya Hotline1 We build a lot of 80,000 to 100,000 sq ft supermarkets and its 90% NMC. I hate to do it. When the local AHJ prohibits it we get about a $50K change order for MC
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#20281 - 01/13/03 06:22 PM Re: Plastic or Steel?
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Iwire:
Curious; in the smkts, where do you run NMC?
They build with plenum ceilings???
What about occupancy??

You said..."a 50K change order when the AHJ prohibits it"; does the AHJ catch it at Plan Review, or after you have it installed??

BTW, what area are you from/in??
John
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