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#198579 - 01/27/11 11:23 PM Ideal AFCI tester upgrade
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Ideal has an upgrade to their old AFCI testers to make them trip more brands of breakers.
It isn't free

http://www.idealindustries.com/media/pdfs/products/notices/suretest_upgrade_program.pdf
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#198628 - 01/29/11 06:53 PM Re: Ideal AFCI tester upgrade [Re: gfretwell]
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What happened to the manufacturer recommended test feature?

The button on the device.

Will there be documentation that this is an 'Approved method'?

Why should the AHJ jurisdictions,in these tough economic times,buy something that is not needed?
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#198633 - 01/30/11 03:40 AM Re: Ideal AFCI tester upgrade [Re: leland]
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Originally Posted By leland
Why should the AHJ jurisdictions,in these tough economic times,buy something that is not needed?

The notice helps identify obsolete & recalled devices that are unloaded on unsuspecting eBay & other buyers.
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#198700 - 02/01/11 09:58 AM Re: Ideal AFCI tester upgrade [Re: gfretwell]
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"The only approved test method ..." Boy, has that line opened a pandora's box.

I've seen it regularly used at another forum in reference to GFCI's ... which is simply wrong. GFCI testers ARE approved means for testing GFCI's, at least according to UL.

As regards AFCI's, one of my objections has been the 'proprietary' nature of the devices. For all I know, the test button is simply an on/off switch! Hello, counterfeits! If the car companies can provide the accessory market with detailed specifications that allow the consumer to get perfectly fitting floormats and car covers, there's no reason the AFCI makers cannot also provide information to tester makers.

I welcome Ideal's efforts in this matter. I also welcome the way this discussion has reminded us that every test method has limitations.
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#198920 - 02/07/11 06:10 PM Re: Ideal AFCI tester upgrade [Re: renosteinke]
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I sent my two year old unit in a couple of weeks ago along with a check for $75.00 and Ideal sent me a brand new one with the updated firmware. The circuit tester is more of a convenience item for me, which I do actually use every once in a while, so I thought it was a pretty good deal.
The last time around, Ideal replaced it for free, but I imagine that is getting cost prohibitive with the frequent tweaking that AFCI manufactures keep doing to try and make their junk science work they way they claim it should.
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