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#198394 - 01/20/11 10:41 AM AFCI at the first outlet
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If the dwelling is using IMC, EMT, AC cable or RMC for the wiring method, is AFCI protection required? or the exception to 210.12 applies to the first receptacle only?

Thank you.
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#198395 - 01/20/11 11:14 AM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: Niko]
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The last few words sum it up.

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it shall be permitted to install a combination AFCI at the first outlet to provide protection for the remaining portion of the branch circuit.


You still need the AFCI but you can push it out to the first outlet location.
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#198396 - 01/20/11 12:07 PM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: gfretwell]
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I'm also pretty sure that they mean the first receptacle on that circuit, not the first receptacle on that conduit run.

2 circuits = 2 AFCIs.
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#198405 - 01/20/11 07:29 PM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: ghost307]
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All you have to do then is find the readily available (Ha Ha) AFCI device!!!
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#198424 - 01/21/11 10:56 AM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: HotLine1]
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John,

Has anyone seen an AFCI device? Tooth Fairy? Easter Bunny? ELVIS?

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#198426 - 01/21/11 12:14 PM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: harold endean]
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...and what were they smoking when they saw it??

LOL
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#198430 - 01/21/11 01:27 PM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: ghost307]
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I see Elvis at the 7-11 all the time and he has lost weight but, alas, no AFCI device.
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#198551 - 01/26/11 07:47 PM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: gfretwell]
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AFCI devices are in the latest edition of EC Mag.
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#198559 - 01/27/11 09:11 AM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: Tesla]
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Tesla,

I am a little behind in my reading. I have 3 EC mag and 4 IAEI mags ahead of the new EC magazine. However I will get there, sooner or later! smile

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#198583 - 01/28/11 07:36 AM Re: AFCI at the first outlet [Re: harold endean]
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Tesla:

You said...."AFCI devices are in the latest edition of EC Mag."

IF you mean page 75 of the 1-11 issue....that is the reference materials from the NEC changes/Handbook!

IMHO, and that of many others here....it does NOT exist!
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