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#197796 - 12/20/10 02:48 PM 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW
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Does anyone know of a manufacturer/part number that:

Switch on a 120v 15/20amp circuit with a motor load of about 1.5 amps. When the switch/button is pushed in the switch would remain active for only 5-10 seconds? This would be used to engage a toilet pump motor for that time period and then cycle off automatically.

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#197798 - 12/20/10 03:01 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: BobV3CORP]
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A time to off TD relay controlling a motor starter.
Press the button and the relay closes, activating the starter. The TD starts counting down then opens the control contact and the starter opens. All a pretty basic Time delay circuit.

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#197801 - 12/20/10 03:46 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: mikesh]
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Thanks Mike. Unfortunately I don't think that would look to good in a homeowners finished bathroom. I was wondering if anyone knows of a device made by a company such as leviton that might fit into an old work box.

Bob
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#197802 - 12/20/10 04:36 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: BobV3CORP]
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Could you put the delay off relay at the pump?
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#197803 - 12/20/10 04:45 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: gfretwell]
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Without getting in to deep, how about one of those Intermatic (or others) timers? Don't know if they have one in seconds, but they do in minutes & hours.
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#197806 - 12/20/10 05:12 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: HotLine1]
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Why re-invent the wheel?

I'm not clear as to the application - but obviously the pump is used to either empty something or fill something.

A small plastic sump/tank, holding both the pump and a float switch, would only run aslong as it took to pump out a 'flush.' Or, a similar arrangement would fill the tank.

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#197808 - 12/20/10 05:21 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: renosteinke]
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A correctly plumbed watercloset will have an ejection pump if needed.

Is someone improvising?

If you need to use an ejection pump there is NO WAY you can have any confidence in a time delay circuit.

Further, these and similar pumps don't like to pump dry.

I'd leave all of the design to a plumber and step back.
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#197809 - 12/20/10 07:16 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: BobV3CORP]
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Tesla is probably right but I thought I would see if someone had a simple fix solution. The uit is located behind the toilet and exposed. So there isn't anywhere to put any equipment. The existing float switch apparently has failed. The unit is sealed and is not intended to be accessible for repair. The cost of replacement is more than the owner can afford at this time and was hoping there might be a temporary solution in the meantime.
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#197810 - 12/20/10 08:12 PM Re: 120V 15/20 AMP 5 SEC SW [Re: BobV3CORP]
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This may work for you. It will hold the load from 1 second to 24 hours per button press.

http://www.intermatic.com/products/timers/in-wall%20timers/digital%20auto-off%20timers.aspx
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