The Electrical Contractor Network

ECN Electrical Forum
Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Books, Tools and Test Equipment for Electrical and Construction Trades

Register Now!

Register Now!

We want your input!

Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Recent Posts
International Wire Colour Codes
by Texas_Ranger
Today at 03:29 PM
Looking for older post
by Texas_Ranger
Today at 03:22 PM
Safety at heights?
by gfretwell
Today at 02:19 AM
Last time to chat here
by Trumpy
Yesterday at 11:41 PM
Unsafe Situations
by Trumpy
Yesterday at 09:46 PM
New in the Gallery:
Desk-mounted "power-board"
Shout Box

Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 35
HotLine1 20
Trumpy 19
Ruben Rocha 17
gfretwell 16
Who's Online
2 registered (Admin, HotLine1), 69 Guests and 10 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#195337 - 07/26/10 06:55 PM Above ground pool 680.26 (C)
HotLine1 Online   content


Member

Registered: 04/03/02
Posts: 6832
Loc: Brick, NJ USA
I'm looking for some info regarding the 680.26 (C) water bond for [u][i][b]above ground pools.[/b][/i][/u]

NOT how to comply with 680.26 (C)...but,

Who supplys and/or installs the bonding point?

Who is paying for that additional work?

If us ECs are having to provide it, any issues with finding the part?

Any other comments appreciated


Edited by HotLine1 (07/27/10 11:23 AM)
_________________________
John

Top
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Arc Flash Clothing, Gloves, KneePads, Tool Belts, Pouches, Tool Carriers, etc. etc....

#195346 - 07/27/10 10:30 AM Re: Above ground pool 680.26 (C) [Re: HotLine1]
SteveFehr Offline
Member

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Chesapeake, VA
I've got an inflateable aboveground pool we set up for my kids in the summer. Does NEC *really* require an equipotential grid be laid down before setting it up, and a ground electrode draped over the side? I mean, it seems absurd, but it sure looks like it; they even go out of their way to say this chapter applies to storeable pools as well as permanant.

To answer your question; pretty sure the pool guy will install the ladder, and possibly the bond as it SHOULD come designed for code-compliant bonding. If he doesn't supply the bond, you would have to. The customer will pay for it all.

Top
#195347 - 07/27/10 10:43 AM Re: Above ground pool 680.26 (C) [Re: SteveFehr]
gfretwell Offline


Member

Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9066
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
No "storable" pools are not covered by chapter II of the NEC. See Chapter III. The main issue is that you are using all "storable pool" equipment. It should be so marked.
This is all double insulated and the pump comes with a long cord (25')

Ladder cups usually get installed by the guy shooting the concrete and they usually do all of the concrete encased bonding around here. This may be inspected by the structural inspector but there is an "electrical" box to be signed off on the permit so it really should be an electrical inspector. These days most inspectors are multi-rated.
Departments protect licenses when times are tough and the more licenses you have, the better chance you have to keep your job.
The way it worked on my pool was I saw an electrical and a structural inspector before the pool was shot and the electrical inspector did the final. (verifying the fence/cage, alarms etc along with the electrical finals)
_________________________
Greg Fretwell

Top
#195353 - 07/28/10 11:46 AM Re: Above ground pool 680.26 (C) [Re: gfretwell]
SteveFehr Offline
Member

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Chesapeake, VA
Ah, good! I missed the chapter headings. NEC needs to use multiple font sizes or outline-style indents or something; it's often hard to read.

Top


ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals