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#194668 - 06/15/10 07:35 PM RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued
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Years ago arrangements were made with a third party service to offer Free Websites @ yourname.electrical-contractor.net.

At the time I thought it was a good thing, offering free server space, and easy templates for building a simple website. Over the years though, the service has evolved to be something which I have less and less control over.

It's difficult to keep up with all of the spammers and amateur porn websites that keep cropping up. They're probably 95% of the signups now, more difficult to find, and I can no longer delete them myself. I think this has hurt ECN website rankings in the search engines too.

So, long story short, with regrets, I will be discontinuing the free web service here in the near future. If you have a website@electrical-contractor.net it will no longer be there a few weeks from now. You should make arrangements to move it elsewhere.

Bill

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#194693 - 06/16/10 12:40 AM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: Webmaster]
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I would think the porn would increase the search engine rating :P
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#194694 - 06/16/10 01:38 AM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: noderaser]
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Bill,
That's fair enough.
It's a shame that spammmers and porn merchants seem to get in everywhere these days, they know they are not wanted, but they try it on all the same.
I would have thought that there would have been some laws with teeth passed and enforced by now, I mean, how old is the internet?
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#194697 - 06/16/10 10:51 AM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: Trumpy]
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There wasn't a way to police that? How many free web sites were there out there?

I do understand the concern tho. I suspect that is why places like AOL discontinued their web services.
There are still plenty of fairly cheap web hosting places if you really want a business related site. I have two now with web.com. One is for the HOA esteroriverheights.com where I live and the other is gfretwell.com for me. I had been using a corner of the HOA site for my own FTP site but I decided it probably wasn't a good idea, even though I was paying the bill. The "electrical" directory is still out there but I pulled everything that was personal.
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#194698 - 06/16/10 11:39 AM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: gfretwell]
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Originally Posted By: gfretwell
There wasn't a way to police that? How many free web sites were there out there?

I do understand the concern tho. I suspect that is why places like AOL discontinued their web services.
There are still plenty of fairly cheap web hosting places if you really want a business related site. I have two now with web.com. One is for the HOA esteroriverheights.com where I live and the other is gfretwell.com for me. I had been using a corner of the HOA site for my own FTP site but I decided it probably wasn't a good idea, even though I was paying the bill. The "electrical" directory is still out there but I pulled everything that was personal.

Greg,

When it started out I could monitor the signups, see the contact info, etc, and I could basically 'Approve' or 'Disapprove' what the site was being used for, and I could easily delete the accounts that violated the TOS agreement. All of that has changed over the years.

There are probably thousands of accounts set up, many inactive, I have no master list. Many times these sites are used just to forward to another site, or a links page. Now, when I come across one used for spam or porn I have to contact someone else to remove it. There are people out there that do this stuff 24/7 it's a PITA I don't need.

Bill

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#194699 - 06/16/10 11:51 AM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: Trumpy]
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Originally Posted By: Trumpy
Bill,
That's fair enough.
It's a shame that spammmers and porn merchants seem to get in everywhere these days, they know they are not wanted, but they try it on all the same.
I would have thought that there would have been some laws with teeth passed and enforced by now, I mean, how old is the internet?
Mike,

I'm with you on all that....

It's a shame how much they've clogged things up too. I have to wade through a thousand or more emails a day on the average, about 98% is garbage. It's a sore subject for me.

Bill

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#194702 - 06/16/10 12:17 PM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: Webmaster]
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Bill:
I think all of the legitimate people here understand your position.

I get inundated with junk mail also, and it is time consuming!
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#194709 - 06/16/10 02:50 PM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: HotLine1]
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This is just the free sites right?
Does this mean they are also planning on dropping their paid website subscribers as well sometime in the near future?

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#194713 - 06/16/10 04:14 PM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: KJay]
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Originally Posted By: KJay
This is just the free sites right?
Does this mean they are also planning on dropping their paid website subscribers as well sometime in the near future?

KJay,

I was thinking about dropping the whole service. You bring up a good question though, if we could drop the freebies that would eliminate the bulk, if not all of the problem. I don't know if that is an option.

I don't want to leave anyone in a bad spot. I will see what I can find out.

Bill

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#194719 - 06/17/10 12:35 AM Re: RE: FREE Websites at ECN being Discontinued [Re: Webmaster]
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I understand now. I did not realize how many accounts you were dealing with.
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