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#19263 - 12/23/02 02:09 AM Good Builder?  
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What, in your opinion, makes a good Building Contractor, with respect to working in with them, during a New Construction or an Alteration?. [Linked Image]
Your thoughts please?.-


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#19264 - 12/23/02 08:16 AM Re: Good Builder?  
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A good GC is proactive rather than reactive.
They try to forsee issues that will arise. They do everything in a timely fashion, from answering RFI's to paying their bills.
Scheduling is updated on a regular basis, so that when a setback occurs say, during framing, they aren't cramming the EC into a 1/2 the time window so that they can get their beloved drywall up in the original time frame...S


#19265 - 12/23/02 08:23 AM Re: Good Builder?  
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simply put, respect.


#19266 - 12/23/02 03:29 PM Re: Good Builder?  
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Beloved drywall? Thats the best description I've heard.It surely seems to be a beloved thing,it seems that the mechanicals are an evil to be hurried along and dispensed with as soon as possible!


#19267 - 12/25/02 02:10 PM Re: Good Builder?  
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Sighh...
I see it's the same all over. [Linked Image]


#19268 - 12/27/02 01:07 AM Re: Good Builder?  
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Ever seen an Electrical Location Diagram at the start of a large job.
And then compared it to what you had install,
at the end of the job?.
All the variations, changes(because the Architect, thought it was possible to run a wire(s),like that).
Most of the time, it's a big difference isn't it.
Your comments please- [Linked Image]


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#19269 - 01/06/03 08:14 PM Re: Good Builder?  
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A good builder pays the bills period, end of story... I don't care if his quality is A++ I have been burned more than I wish to admit. So as long as they pay they are alright with me.
Don't mean to sound like I don't care about quality, I do. Just feel a bit bitter today, Sorry.....


#19270 - 01/06/03 08:32 PM Re: Good Builder?  
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Trumpy;
In response to the electrical layout. Every job I've been on there seems to be a cordination problem mostly. We as sub contractors try to make good with other subs in order to make it all fit. Most companies don't want to pay for coordination drawings, so we have to coordinate. Helps a great deal if the super on the job is having coordination meetings and following through with it. Plans are general and it takes us in the field to accomodate them. To me it seems that everyone is covering their A#@.


#19271 - 01/06/03 11:20 PM Re: Good Builder?  
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To me a good general contractor is obviously one that pays his sub contractors. He is also good with communications between the trades. He makes sure that the electrical contractors and the plumbers etc. get the equipment in the right place at the right time, so that we don't have to run around at the last second trying to wire something up. He can schedule things properly. Too many times the GC tries to use "electricians" as "Magicians." The try to get the plumbers and electricans to make up for lost time. It doesn't matter that the excavators, masons, and framers are weeks late because of bad weather. But we have to get the job done by the same completion date even though are starting point got pushed back. Another thing is a GC that takes pride in his work. Too many times these GC's just slp up houses and they just want the money and don't care about quality. If you get a good GC that cares, then his house will look good and your work will too. Just some thoughts from me.


#19272 - 01/07/03 12:27 AM Re: Good Builder?  
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Harold,
Getting paid over here in New Zealand, has been a real sore point, lately, as we have had a number of large building companies go belly up, leaving hundreds of subbies, out of pocket in unpaid wages and materials that have still yet to be paid for.
One such guy over here was a sole trader, he ended up owing NZ$200,000, and never got a cent when the recievers moved in.
So I would move to say that the Main contractor must have good insurance before the form work is even put down.
We all have to make a living!


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