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#192161 - 01/30/10 07:39 AM Protecting non grounded outlets
Belgariad Offline
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Is it legal to protect two wire non grounded outlets with a GFiC? I was thinking it was okay as long as you put labels on them, but can't find it in the code book.

Thanks,

Steve

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#192163 - 01/30/10 07:54 AM Re: Protecting non grounded outlets [Re: Belgariad]
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I believe your answer would be 406.3 D (3) in the '08 Belgariad

You'll need to get into a few older code cycles to see the evolution of it all, but the markings 'No Equipment Ground' and 'GFI protected' have been around for a while

These stickers usually come with a GFI, in with the paperwork. Myself i find they just don't last, and who would want them say, in a high end kitchen?

A while ago, one of our inspectors here bagged me on a basement receptacle not being labeled. So i asked, "can't i just write it on the 4 sq cover?" to which he responded "I don't see why not, as long as it gets the point across"

So i just wrote on it with my sharpy, done deal

If one really thinks about all the protective devicing in a dwelling, afci's and gfci's, or even gfpe's , it'd be mighty hard to label every one of them

~S~

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#192165 - 01/30/10 08:16 AM Re: Protecting non grounded outlets [Re: sparky]
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Keep in mind that there are certain types of equipment that are required to be grounded and that GFCI protection does not remove the requirement. See 250.114 for the list.
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#192166 - 01/30/10 08:33 AM Re: Protecting non grounded outlets [Re: Tom]
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You can also run a gound wire from the receptacle to any point in the ground system

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