ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 19
Recent Posts
fuse rejectors
by NORCAL. 03/29/17 01:44 AM
Old decora style outlets
by NORCAL. 03/29/17 01:41 AM
NFPA stuff
by gfretwell. 03/28/17 08:08 PM
Anyone hiring inspectors?
by HotLine1. 03/27/17 08:03 AM
ESA Arc flash course
by TheShockDoctors. 03/24/17 10:15 AM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
231,899 Are you busy
166,776 Re: Forum
160,888 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
1 registered members (bigrockk), 71 guests, and 13 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#188183 - 07/24/09 03:32 AM More Suicide Cords......  
NORCAL  Offline
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 868
Check out this thread at a forum where I was reading...

Some folks are too clever for their own good.

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#188184 - 07/24/09 04:03 AM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: NORCAL]  
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,060
It is probably no surprise that most "hurricane deaths" happen after the storm and generators are a big part of the problem. If it isn't outright electrocution from jerry rigged connections it is carbon monoxide poisoning.

Greg Fretwell

#188185 - 07/24/09 06:15 AM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: gfretwell]  
Alan Belson  Offline
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,803
Mayenne N. France
"Connect two drier cords together."

Darwin Award Gold Medal contender, 2009. crazy

Wood work but can't!

#188207 - 07/25/09 02:33 AM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: Alan Belson]  
noderaser  Offline
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 404
Portland, Oregon, United State...
Pull a meter around here, and you'll have a storm of @#$% to deal with... That said, I still have a bunch of authentic PoCo seals (Grandfather was a lineman) so I could probably cover my tracks if I absolutely needed to, but except for emergencies I don't go anywhere near seals. They are there for a legitimate (safety and security) reason and should not be breached by anyone but PoCo personnel.

Did I understand one of the posters correctly, who claims he uses #10 wire to jumper the connections before having a meter installed? Sounds like a Darwin-Award hopeful!

#188212 - 07/25/09 05:46 AM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: noderaser]  
Alan Belson  Offline
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,803
Mayenne N. France
If you trawl the net looking for info on any subject, you inevitable stumble onto blog sites or forums inhabited by boneheads with less than three working brain cells. The sheer ignorance of some of these dullards can be a sourse of endless amusement to anyone faintly versed in anything technical.

[ Examples: On a topic of a steam powered 1933 Boeing biplane: Oblivious to the fact that the plane was scrapped 75 years ago, some berk suggests fitting wing mirrors to solar power the boiler! A Glasgow moron asks for advice after pouring lard into his diesel-engined car's tank. A fellow cretin suggests adding acetone to dissolve the solid fat which has entirely clogged up the fuel line, filters and pump! laugh ]

'Mr. Supply-the-Entire-Neighborhood-with-a-Massive-2000 Watts' hasn't worked out yet that if he succesfully implements his cunning plan, just who will be paying for the generator, the gasoline and the lawyers representing the poco and the families of the victims.

Wood work but can't!

#188214 - 07/25/09 01:19 PM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: Alan Belson]  
NJwirenut  Offline
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 806
Bergen County, NJ
From the link:

I would like to build a giant plug that would plug into the meter socket. That would make sure no power came from the electric co. and it would fit anywhere. I would need it to be waterproof or have a water proof cover.

Such a thing (with an automatic transfer switch built-in) already exists:

Anyone out there installed one of these yet?

#188219 - 07/25/09 04:39 PM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: NJwirenut]  
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,060
Load management will certainly become an issue fast with this gizmo.

Greg Fretwell

#188228 - 07/26/09 12:04 PM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: gfretwell]  
leland  Offline
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 853
Lowell area, Ma. USA
Yes it would.That looks like 20A cord.
where/how does the isolation from the poco take place?

#188229 - 07/26/09 01:34 PM Re: More Suicide Cords...... [Re: leland]  
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,060
I assume there is a transfer device in that adapter. That sure must be a compact 200a DPDT switch. I wonder how the PoCos feel about it.

Greg Fretwell

Member Spotlight
CA, Inland Empire
Posts: 43
Joined: September 2013
Show All Member Profiles 

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.015s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8014 MB (Peak: 0.9734 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-03-30 22:41:23 UTC