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#181987 - 11/14/08 08:59 AM VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING
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We have recently installed vfd's in exixting circuits and now one of the motors has burned out and they are blaming our VFD. The vfd s are not even programmed to do any control as of yet just off and on.
Can it be the VFD the controls company is saying that our VFD's are causing a voltage across the bearings?

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#181990 - 11/14/08 11:04 AM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: GETELECTRIC]
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What is the motor driving? Is there any chance voltage is getting transferred to the motor shaft?
I really don't see this being a VFD problem.
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#181994 - 11/14/08 05:26 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: gfretwell]
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That isn't logical.

However, blaming the competition for everything from bearings to bad weather is quite normal.

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#181995 - 11/14/08 06:12 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: GETELECTRIC]
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I vaguely remember reading something about this in a trade magazine (maybe EC&M). As I recall, it has to do with current spikes from the VFD's output inducing a voltage on the motor shaft via the windings, and the current arcing across the bearings and burning them.

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#181996 - 11/14/08 06:22 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: GETELECTRIC]
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#181997 - 11/14/08 07:28 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: Albert]
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Thanks Albert

Another timely subject! Got a call this afternoon regarding a sewage lift station pump/VFD/panel meltdown, on a 'fairly new' install. That's Mondays problem child. This PDF may be interesting reading.
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#181999 - 11/14/08 07:58 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: HotLine1]
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interesting stuff. Surprised me.
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#182000 - 11/14/08 08:36 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: gfretwell]
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I recall this conversation not too long ago.

Wait For RENO Or Frenchelectrician. I believe they have the skinny on it.

Yes it did have something to do with induction.

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#182009 - 11/15/08 10:41 AM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: leland]
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I think the real answer is the EMI filter mentioned in the article. I would be surprised that a decent VFD wouldn't have that, just for FCC compliance.
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#182011 - 11/15/08 04:50 PM Re: VFD BURNING OUT MOTOR BEARING [Re: leland]
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Thanks for the vote of confidence ... but the issue is beyond my experience.

I've only seen bearings damaged by current flow, either through a fault condition, or when someone did some welding on the machine.

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