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Poster electure Offline
Posted 11/11/08 06:57 PM
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#12 on a 60 Amp circuit
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#12 on a 30 Amp circuit
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#182565 - 12/02/08 12:38 PM Re: Double Lugging ***** [Re: electure]
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I don't see why someone would do this?
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#182569 - 12/02/08 04:52 PM Re: Double Lugging [Re: sbi]
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Where oh where did I see this before???

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#183414 - 01/08/09 05:42 PM Re: Double Lugging [Re: HotLine1]
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Some breakers would allow 2 wires under their screw but they would have to be same size wires. This just looks like a bad job.
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#184079 - 01/31/09 09:11 PM Re: Double Lugging [Re: harold endean]
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#12s under 60a CB=really bad. At least they used number coding, prob. panduits to make it look like a swiss watch too. I guess it could be a tap rule....
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#211024 - 09/04/13 07:41 PM Re: Double Lugging [Re: electure]
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isnt that the way emon meters are often connected
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#211033 - 09/05/13 09:30 PM Re: Double Lugging [Re: electure]
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Might be the way, but it is a violation unless the brkr is listed for two. Like SqD for example
E- mon requires OCP on voltage conductors
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#211058 - 09/09/13 08:06 PM Re: Double Lugging [Re: electure]
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Each breaker was serving 2 different pieces of equipment in the first photo.

I think even the Sq-D breakers aren't listed for 2 different sized conductors, as in the case of the first photo.
(E-mon meters require a 1/10th amp inline fuse on the line side.)
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#211062 - 09/10/13 01:13 AM Re: Double Lugging [Re: electure]
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I don't see anything on the label that implies the QO breaker can only accommodate one wire size.

It says "1 or 2 AL/CU #8-14"
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#211064 - 09/10/13 08:32 AM Re: Double Lugging [Re: electure]
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One comment I heard a while back was something like.....

"I'm using the <10 foot tap rule! The small motor only draws 7 amps, so the 60 amp is still not overloaded"

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