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#18096 - 12/05/02 07:52 PM Leviton Dimmers
aldav53 Offline
Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 545
Loc: Chandler, AZ USA
I installed several Leviton 600w slide dimmers in a church and each dimmer is running 4 recessed lights on a seperate 20a circuit with 60 watt standard flood bulbs. The problem is that the dimmers are getting hot, almost too hot to touch. What is going on?
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#18097 - 12/05/02 08:18 PM Re: Leviton Dimmers
Wirenuttt Offline
Registered: 11/10/02
Posts: 267
Loc: Massachusetts
Did you gang these dimmers together?
#18098 - 12/05/02 08:42 PM Re: Leviton Dimmers
Electric Eagle Offline
Registered: 04/20/02
Posts: 914
Loc: Alpharetta, GA
I'm not saying that you don't have a problem, but I've had the same issue with Lutron dimmers. This is copy of the response Lutron's technical service sent me when I questioned the same problem.

>>>>>Thanks for your e-mail to Lutron. The dimmer can safely reach a temperature of 150°f above ambient room temperature. If the heat is bothersom to the customer they can purchase nylon screws to help stop the transfer of heat from the dimmer to the face plate. <<<<<

I've tried the nylon plate screws and they seem to do the trick.
#18099 - 12/06/02 07:20 AM Re: Leviton Dimmers
SvenNYC Offline
Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 1691
Loc: New York City
That explains why some dimmers in the conference rooms at my job have these big fat aluminium heat sinks....

The plastic wall trim plates snap onto these.

It's like four or five slide dimmers to a box.
#18100 - 12/06/02 11:36 AM Re: Leviton Dimmers
spyder Offline
Registered: 10/14/02
Posts: 210
Loc: Massachusetts
Didmmers will get warm, but should not get hot to touch. Remember in a church they are probably on coninuously. Maybe you should bump them up to 1000watt dimmers.
#18101 - 12/06/02 02:28 PM Re: Leviton Dimmers
CTwireman Offline
Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 840
Loc: Connecticut, USA
I can't speak for Leviton, but I know when you snap both fins off of a Lutron dimmer it drops the wattage rating down to 400.

Dumb question, but are you absolutely sure they are 60 watt bulbs?

I only ask this because I have seen some recessed fixtures in a church way up in the sanctuary ceiling that were 300 watt R-lamps.
#18102 - 12/06/02 02:34 PM Re: Leviton Dimmers
Fredmeister Offline
Registered: 11/26/02
Posts: 23
Loc: Beacon, NY, US
Here is the problem:

You get exactly what you pay for. If you use a cheap slide dimmer, chances are that you will get nothing more than a resistor with a knob on it. The device will be nothing more than a heater that absorbs unwanted power to the lights. (Hence the big cooling fins on these types of Dimmers)

It is better to go with a high frequency type dimmer, which switches power rather than absorbing it. (These generally have much less metal on them) The still get warm but not smoking hot.

Here is another issue:

Ganging: If you get stuck having to use wall-box Dimmers on a job with more than a few devices per room, get ready to take over a nice big part of the wall. The ideal situation would be 1 Dimmer per Box … period. Otherwise you could end up going back again and again, replacing Dimmers under Warranty ( Yours ). Depending on the Spec that could prove expensive for you. Too much heat will take these things out real fast.

Forget about anything more than 2 gang boxes with dimmers in them…

The way I feel, Wall Box dimmers are nothing more than an afterthought to a switch. Amazingly, many Architects still put them on the plan. If you have a lot of Dimmers on a new Job, you will be better off using some kind of Architectural Dimming System. (They do not cost as much as most people assume) We call them energy management systems for people that are afraid of the word Dimming System or those that are technology shy.

I am not even going to mention that there are at least 3 types of Dimmers that you must use, depending on the load connected.

Btw. I wonder if a new replacement dimmer every couple of months would be more bothersome to the customer, or to Lutron?
#18103 - 12/06/02 04:32 PM Re: Leviton Dimmers
Electricmanscott Offline
Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1457
Loc: Holden, MA USA
I have installed about a thousand wallbox dimmers over the last 5 years. One, two, three gang. I have been called back to replace ONE that I can remember off hand! I use mainly Lutron Diva series. They do tend to get pretty warm but I have had few complaints. The setup descibed in the church as descrobed is probably fine.

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